Morbid curiosity. Upgrade times?
- Thread starter ZapBrannigan
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milksheikh
Well-Known Member
how long til 330/350 capt? Still hovering at about a quarter century?
Comair 100ER
Well-Known Member
Yeah, pretty much. Junior FO on the WB buses are 2016 hires I believe. Maybe, 2017, but not sure. Crazy there’s a lot of guys who can hold NB capt but not 330/350 FO.
Dexter
Hop off there, Blonde Ambition Tour
Last I checked 1997 hires for 330/350 Captain. Plug 330 FO in NYC is mid 2017 hire.
ClearedForOption
Psychiatric Help 5¢
Ok, I'll say it... what we really need is a single (national) seniority list. "DOH" is 1st day of INDOC, 1st ALPA Carrier. (or SWAPA/APA) Let the list cook in the crock pot for 7-10 years and Boom.
Discuss.
Dexter
Hop off there, Blonde Ambition Tour
no thanks.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
Score... I'll happily take my June 1996 seniority date. Where do I sign?
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
This is similar to the age 65 thing. People who knew the rules all along, suddenly advocated for changing the game mid way through.
I'm totally for national seniority list numbers but nobody should be able to use them until everybody working at the time is retired (or fenced off, which is always a bad idea). Also, you'd flatten out the pay and benefits landscape pretty quickly by doing that or force everybody junior to the minor league carriers.
CFIT99
I'm probably commenting ironically...
Didn’t the unions try to do this like 40-50 years ago?
milksheikh
Well-Known Member
with all the hiring delta has done since 2014, it’s clear the widebody capt prospects for someone hired today are much better at ual/aa. Delta was my #1 until I realized this and that their widebody fleet was the smallest of the legacies too. Don’t get me wrong, I’d still go in a heartbeat should I be lucky enough to get called.
JordanD
Chinese Food Enthusiast
The NEO is downright annoying at altitude. Get to within 1,000 to 1,500 feet of level off and it just decides “I don’t wanna!” anymore and tried to descent in OP CLB. Come to think of it there’s a lot of little “quirks” on the NEO that are super irritating.
Baronman
Well-Known Member
Yep….Looks cool. It’s quiet. Aside from that no thanks. The CEO engine start and high alt performance make me
them.
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VNAV monitor
Oh boo, a heavy CEO with tired engines will do the exact same.
JordanD
Chinese Food Enthusiast
Yeah, but a relatively light NEO will do it
I feel like it tries to get too “cute” for comfort, or something. I was climbing out in a SID with traffic descending above us and we’re rocketing out so I go vertical speed to shallow it out to avoid an RA. VS literally never decreased.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Are the big fans not powerful? Are they derated at your airline? What is the thrust output, 35,000 lbs. of thrust?
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VNAV monitor
Yeah, but a relatively light NEO will do it
I feel like it tries to get too “cute” for comfort, or something. I was climbing out in a SID with traffic descending above us and we’re rocketing out so I go vertical speed to shallow it out to avoid an RA. VS literally never decreased.
All control inputs are filtered by a "passenger comfort" algorithm before being sent to the flight control surfaces. Do you even fly by wire, bro?
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VNAV monitor
26.6 NEO and 27.1 CEO (ex 321, I believe those are 33 something) at my place
JordanD
Chinese Food Enthusiast
Actually lowering the nose is a lot more comfortable than a hamfisted RA level off
poser765
Well-Known Member
Even more impressive than that is the fadec. It has to translate the commands from French first, then execute them. Crazy.
