Life at Compass

PropDriver said:
12% of the FOs upgraded in one award. That's unheard of.
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That's not possible, because Compass is almost entirely made up of misfit toys from other airlines, and when you leave one airline for another the upgrade will ALWAYS be just out of reach, and this would show that good, strategic decision making can result in positive career outcomes, and further shows that talismanic adherence to "common sense" principles on "the internet" don't always hold true.

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Hacker15e said:
Don't you have to actually pass training before you can be called a Captain?
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The failure rate right now is pretty low. It's not a foregone conclusion, because guys do fail upgrade (mostly, I think they fail upgrade OE), but almost everyone in this bid will be successful in training.

In another year or so, when you've got folks that went from flight instructing to Compass upgrading in 12-18 months, that failure rate might be going up. But right now many folks that are going through upgrade have been at various regionals for almost a decade.
 
Not debating weather or not they'll pass...isn't it a matter of actually passing before you actually have the next qualification?

In the military, guys get selected for promotion months -- sometimes years -- before they actually change ranks. For instance, when I was promoted from O-3 (Captain) to O-4 (Major), I was notified that I was selected for promotion in fall of 2003, but did not actually pin-on the rank, swear in, and collect the higher paycheck until nearly 3 years later in 2006. During that interim time after I'd all ready been selected for promotion, I was still a Captain, and I wasn't entitled to be referred to as "Major" until such time as I actually swore in and wore the rank.

Just wondering if that's also how titles and qualifications work in the airline world. Seems to me that successfully bidding for Captain means that you've been given the opportunity to become a Captain, not that you are one yet...but since that's not my world, that's why I was asking.
 
Hacker15e said:
Not debating weather or not they'll pass...isn't it a matter of actually passing before you actually have the next qualification?

In the military, guys get selected for promotion months -- sometimes years -- before they actually change ranks. For instance, when I was promoted from O-3 (Captain) to O-4 (Major), I was notified that I was selected for promotion in fall of 2003, but did not actually pin-on the rank, swear in, and collect the higher paycheck until nearly 3 years later in 2006. During that interim time after I'd all ready been selected for promotion, I was still a Captain, and I wasn't entitled to be referred to as "Major" until such time as I actually swore in and wore the rank.

Just wondering if that's also how titles and qualifications work in the airline world. Seems to me that successfully bidding for Captain means that you've been given the opportunity to become a Captain, not that you are one yet...but since that's not my world, that's why I was asking.
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You're not wrong, it's just a level of detail that isn't necessary for Marcus trying to be positive for all the folks that have had some stagnant careers thus far is all.
 
Hacker15e said:
Not debating weather or not they'll pass...isn't it a matter of actually passing before you actually have the next qualification?

In the military, guys get selected for promotion months -- sometimes years -- before they actually change ranks. For instance, when I was promoted from O-3 (Captain) to O-4 (Major), I was notified that I was selected for promotion in fall of 2003, but did not actually pin-on the rank, swear in, and collect the higher paycheck until nearly 3 years later in 2006. During that interim time after I'd all ready been selected for promotion, I was still a Captain, and I wasn't entitled to be referred to as "Major" until such time as I actually swore in and wore the rank.

Just wondering if that's also how titles and qualifications work in the airline world. Seems to me that successfully bidding for Captain means that you've been given the opportunity to become a Captain, not that you are one yet...but since that's not my world, that's why I was asking.
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I've still got old FOs that call me Captain on the phone because that's how they knew me.

Some of us in the "profession" don't take titles so seriously.
 
Technically, FOs are still FOs, 3 stripes and all until the Fed Ride is complete. But, because the promotion opportunity selection is based on seniority, it has become a tradition to congratulate at the moment of award, in addition to completion of OE. At Skyway, the Line Checkairman was the first to say "Congratulations, Captain!"
 
Seggy said:
Ahhhh no.

Some captains in the "welcome aboard speech" at various airlines say "I'm captain Jim joining me up here is co-captain Bob". Hence my post.
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Flew with a couple of guys at my old shop who said that... Always put a smile on my face...

Also excited to start here on the 30th..
 
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