You've avoided this question several times now and I really won't be too surprised if you do it again, but what do YOU think the RAH guys should do?
No I didn't. The IBT should, as a Union, refuse to fly the flying. They won't because they know their rank and file wouldn't support the stand.
So what exactly are the line pilots who are awarded this flying supposed to do? Refuse to fly it? On what grounds? You know as well as I do that a wildcat strike in this labor environment would be incredibly costly to trade unionism everywhere. So, before you get up on your soapbox (again) how about you say what you think they should be doing.
See above.
I did not start this thread over your little war with RAH either...This industry is full of old angry guys that lost this and lost that...so now you are mad....Sure you have justifacation to be upset....but what is all that pissed offness getting you huh?
First, I'm not at war with anyone. I just call a spade a spade. And outsourcing is the latest challenge to all our jobs. At this point, RAH pilots don't see anything wrong with it...they're getting the work. Of course, you could ask the XJT furloughees how they feel tonight.
As long as its not your ox getting gored, I suppose that its all OK, isn't it RSG? Well, someday you're going to want to get out of your RJ and move up. Hopefully there will still be legacy jobs that don't pay RJ wages. Because, at that point you might as well stay at the regional, wherever it is you work.
I'm only saying why carry the hate?...you don't want to talk, you don't want to reason, you don't want to do anything that would require you to no longer be mad.
Who says I'm mad? And accusing someone of "hate" is the lamest attempt to redirect the debate. I'm just point out that the giant sucking sound of this profession is being driven by pilots who are only looking out for themselves. Thank God there are good guys out there like PCL and Seggy who put the whole group above their personal agendas.
If no one is willing to compromise and deprioritze their personal needs for the larger group...then what the heck makes you any different...
But, that's exactly the point, RSG. I do c/d. Every day. You want my Union credentials? Does 15 years of ALPA work count? That's why you wouldn't see me going to an outfit like VX if I was out of work.
Either way, the RAH pilots had no control over this. If you want to cry about this go yell about the MEC over at RAH, but not the pilots on the line that you are basically saying should quit their job.
Sure they do. They control (ideally) their MEC. If they don't get the MEC to reject the flying its because they WANT to do the flying irrespective of their protestations to the contrary.
Yell at the managment teams and the MECs as much as you want, but neither pilot group had any control over what happened and can't recieve the blame.
You really have no idea how MECs work, do you?
Well....actually, yes you can. I would have been one of those Mesa hires if I didn't know about this site. They had a mass recruiting at my college and I was offered a job. Thanks to the insight of the fine professionals on this board, I chose not to go. My QOL with a good job down the road means more to me than flying a jet for McDonalds pay. Screw the jet for that pay. It's too much work and training to get paid so little.
Sadly, you are in the minority among pilots. Just read the responses to this thread. The majority opinion seems to be "Its not the pilot's fault. Don't blame them." Well, without the pilots acquiescence this would never happen.
People make their decisions on what's best for them. We're not here long enough to go around being pissed at everyone.
Perhaps people should think a bit more long range. Because you keep cutting other guys throats, eventually someone is going to come along and cut yours.
I know I'm the rookie who has no clue what he's talking about, but to be honest, I just want to fly and get paid. Is it right to fault those who just really want to fly for taking lower wages because they just want to fly? It's arguable. Will it do anyone any good? Not unless we all come together and work to fix it. That won't happen if the various pilots are pointing fingers and being divisive.
When it won't happen is when people start accepting the behavior without protest. Its like the old story:
When they came for the Communists I didn't speak out. I'm not a Communist. When they came for the Homosexuals, I didn't speak out. I'm not a Homosexual. When they came for the Jews, I didn't speak out. I'm not a Jew. When they came for me there was no one left to speak out.