FBO service

Seggy said:
Nah, it is just the typical Republican mentality.

A person works their ass off for you, but you won't pay them properly.
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Line Service is not a 'service based' job as being a waitress, bar tender, or valet. The base pay reflects that. It may not be the best, but it is there...leaving me to believe it is degradation of the industry sector and management.

In fact the guys who we particularly enjoyed working hard for didn't even tip us often. They were just good people to work with. Even at that, we would occasionally get a few beers for home, a coffee in the morning, or a pizza bought for us. A lot of those guys numbers are in my phone, who I keep in contact with. How many years have you spent on line service?
 
The base pay of the hotel van driver reflects that it is not a service based job, but I always tip them.

I just find it VERY ironic that those who use FBOs don't tip when someone offers good service, but are more bitchy about pay, benefits, compensation, etc. than their airline counterparts in a lot of regards.
 
Do you tip the guys loading the bags on your airliner? Do you tip the guy fueling your airliner?

Good service is a broad term...flight departments expect good service as the norm. Your statement is riddled with inconsistencies and flat out has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

And have you ever flown corporate or charter?
 
n57flyguy said:
Do you tip the guys loading the bags on your airliner? Do you tip the guy fueling your airliner?
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No, but we are talking about Apples and Watermelons.

Good service is a broad term...flight departments expect good service as the norm.
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But if you have five jets coming onto the ramp in a short amount of time, or expect to depart in a timely manner with a lot of planes getting out, I am sure a few bucks to a line guy can expedite that. So you can expect one thing, but you can really get what you want by paying properly.

And have you ever flown corporate or charter?
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No.
 
Seggy said:
No, but we are talking about Apples and Watermelons.

But if you have five jets coming onto the ramp in a short amount of time, or expect to depart in a timely manner with a lot of planes getting out, I am sure a few bucks to a line guy can expedite that. So you can expect one thing, but you can really get what you want by paying properly.

No.
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How so?

How much line service experience do you have? Been there done that, no tip needed. Part of my job was to keep the ramp flow expeditious. I planned ahead and had my outs on the ramp. You are confusing gratitude with compensation. If you have no corporate or charter experience, there is no matter left to base your thoughts on when or if line service should be tipped, just a vicious cycle of belief that all FBO's and Line Techs don't want to do their job unless there is an incentive, which should be provided by the company and management. Also incentive is not 'a few bucks' on line service.
 
n57flyguy said:
How so?

How much line service experience do you have? Been there done that, no tip needed. Part of my job was to keep the ramp flow expeditious. I planned ahead and had my outs on the ramp. You are confusing gratitude with compensation. If you have no corporate or charter experience, there is no matter left to base your thoughts on when or if line service should be tipped, just a vicious cycle of belief that all FBO's and Line Techs don't want to do their job unless there is an incentive, which should be provided by the company and management. Also incentive is not 'a few bucks' on line service.
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Are you asking or is someone else?
 
mikecweb said:
Yes. In other words I don't hand over a 20 and say go change my lav. I ask for a lav dump. If they get on it right away with a smile, tip. If they make a face and leave it for the next shift...no tip.
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This is what I am getting at. Thank you.
 
I should add if I made it rain the night before and don't have cash that shouldn't mean they treat me like charter trash until they see $$ again.
Travis and I worked with a guy that would basically berate line guys and then hand them a $20 to make everything better. I much rather treat them like people and if I see a guy busting his hump I'll take note of it.
If they hover at all looking for a tip that's a no as well.

It's really not that hard. If I see someone and say damn he's going above and beyond then it make sense to tip. If I'm just another plane then they are just another ramper.

My salary, mood, time since getting laid, trip length, dick length, time of day, jetcareers, ppw, a.net, pprune, cnn... all have nothing to do with it.
 
n57flyguy said:
Line Service is not a 'service based' job as being a waitress, bar tender, or valet. The base pay reflects that. It may not be the best, but it is there...leaving me to believe it is degradation of the industry sector and management.

In fact the guys who we particularly enjoyed working hard for didn't even tip us often. They were just good people to work with. Even at that, we would occasionally get a few beers for home, a coffee in the morning, or a pizza bought for us. A lot of those guys numbers are in my phone, who I keep in contact with. How many years have you spent on line service?
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I owe you some beer, Paulson.
 
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