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...also pilots over 60 years old.There are ZERO reasons that these World War II airplanes should still be flying.
Put them indoors in a museum.
...also pilots over 60 years old.There are ZERO reasons that these World War II airplanes should still be flying.
Put them indoors in a museum.
The problem is that at some point there won’t be the expertise and the supplies to keep the airplanes flying. Shoot, it’s hard to find people and parts for stuff like Navajos, Conquests, etc. Modern manufacturing techniques and digitizing as much of the knowledge base as possible might postpone that day. However at some point it won’t be an operation intentionally shortcutting maintenance like the Collings folks did but simply a group of people who are in over their heads, and the FAA will decide that they no longer have the expertise to oversee these kind of operations to an acceptable (and I’m not talking airline or even 135) level of safety and just quit dealing with it. When that will be, who can say.This is a valid critique, and I'm sure everyone involved would welcome anything that would help keep these airplanes safely flying. However, the idea of grounding them all and letting them rot in museums (which hardly anyone visits) is idiotic.
Regarding the crash in the original post, this is the same kind of crash that happens with GA airplanes every month. In this case, nobody got hurt either in the airplane or on the ground. The only damage was the owners wallet and the airplane in question will be recovered and restored in due time.
The problem is that at some point there won’t be the expertise and the supplies to keep the airplanes flying. Shoot, it’s hard to find people and parts for stuff like Navajos, Conquests, etc. Modern manufacturing techniques and digitizing as much of the knowledge base as possible might postpone that day. However at some point it won’t be an operation intentionally shortcutting maintenance like the Collings folks did but simply a group of people who are in over their heads, and the FAA will decide that they no longer have the expertise to oversee these kind of operations to an acceptable (and I’m not talking airline or even 135) level of safety and just quit dealing with it. When that will be, who can say.
I don’t know. I think at this point reasonable people may have differing opinions on the issue and I don’t think it’s clear cut that we’re there or how close we are at the moment.At what point do we decide it’s acceptable to relegate these things to a museum? Sure, it isn’t as cool as seeing them flying around....but do they still NEED to be flying around for us to remember history?
How many Sopwith Camels are still flying around?
for the pilot who was an enlisted man, officers stayed on the ground and pointed.
Yeah, sorry but World War II aircraft in general literally do nothing for me.
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Fight me. I don’t care.
Shoot, given what I’ve seen in 11 years of 135 and what I saw before that in light GA he might be more right than I’d like to admit. Oh well.That's fine, not everyone has the same taste in music either. What kind of airplane makes your jaw hit the floor?
OTOH, Seggy has been on record that Warbirds, Acrobatics, Alaska bush flying, 90% of light GA, (basically anything not 141 or 121) should be outlawed.
And....Presidential candidates from both parties...signed a 61 yr old low time Comml pilot...LOLOLOL...also pilots over 60 years old.
Shoot, given what I’ve seen in 11 years of 135 and what I saw before that in light GA he might be more right than I’d like to admit. Oh well.
I'll fight ya...LOLOLYeah, sorry but World War II aircraft in general literally do nothing for me.
I can always appreciate them based on the impact they had in our country’s history, but that’s where my interest ends.
It’s just like classic American muscle cars to me. Boring, uninteresting, and a general waste of my time.
I’d rather have gotten a ride in the Concorde than a B-17 or B-29.
Fight me. I don’t care.
We are lucky to be alive after that, methinks.even eating Texan vietnamese sports bar dinner with Vaguepost King @Autothrust Blue .
At what point do we decide it’s acceptable to relegate these things to a museum? Sure, it isn’t as cool as seeing them flying around....but do they still NEED to be flying around for us to remember history?
How many Sopwith Camels are still flying around? Or any WW1 aircraft for that matter? Are we just as upset about that as we are with some of these legacy WWII aircraft? The
I just don’t get it the outrage.
Airbus - you know, the manufacturer - say that airplane should not be flying either, incidentally. As neat as it would be to see one fly and despite how much I was bummed out at their retirement, I’m glad that the surviving airplanes are more or less permanently preserved. Because I can walk into MOF and see one, and be reminded that yes, indeed, supersonic people hauling was a routine thing once. And the surviving examples are literally impossible to replace.That's fine, not everyone has the same taste in music either. What kind of airplane makes your jaw hit the floor?
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OTOH, Seggy has been on record that Warbirds, Acrobatics, Alaska bush flying, 90% of light GA, (basically anything not 141 or 121) should be outlawed.
First class job by the pilot!
He ditches between the beach and swimmers.
The aircraft ditched into the water close to Cocoa Beach during the Cocoa Beach Air Show. It first flew for Valiant Air Command in 2020 after an almost 18-year restoration.
That's fine, not everyone has the same taste in music either. What kind of airplane makes your jaw hit the floor?
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OTOH, Seggy has been on record that Warbirds, Acrobatics, Alaska bush flying, 90% of light GA, (basically anything not 141 or 121) should be outlawed.
I remember when I was a kid I think there were only 2 actual airworthy zeros. I know on tradeaplane right now there is a restored zero that has the original engine in a crate but it has a Pratt and Whitney on the nose currently.Holy crap didn’t realize just how tiny the Zero is compared the Hellcat until that pic. All the “Zero’s” I’ve seen were modified T-6’s.
And this is the problem with the modern day Jetcareers forum. Finally, a thread about something aviation related, and still, it's turned into garbage. No longer is Jetcateers a place for likeminded people to interact, about work and hobby...lifestyle even. No longer is it a place to meet new friends, new instructors, new bosses. Modern day Jetcareers has become a place for @Seggy @jtrain609 @SlumTodd_Millionaire and @Cherokee_Cruiser to argue points which they know nobody will agree with, both aviation or political. For a while placing them on ignore made my experience so much better. Sadly though, it seems these trolls have angered so many people that the majority of posts forumwide are just counterarguments to those few antisocial monsters' relentless idiocy.
I've met so many incredible people and gained a wealth of knowledge through this forum. It really is sad what a few people done.
This feels like eulogy. I choose to remember Jetcareers through all the friends, the only downside was seeing @ChasenSFO 's snapchat pictures. Great things too like flying into Oshkosh with @Nark , hanging out in Mojave with @inigo88 , many Seattle or LAX layovers with @mikecweb , many weeks at Reno with Hacker, watching Warbirds in Chino thanks to @fholbert , so many Oshkoshs and South Florida aviating with @CFI A&P ... even eating Texan vietnamese sports bar dinner with Vaguepost King @Autothrust Blue .