DCI Pass Benefits

[Cptnchia]

Look guys, once again. . .

Travel benefits are considered part of your compensation. What % - who knows. Could be 5, 10, 15, or even 20% of your compensation is composed of the "travel benefits."

See, that's the thing. DAL management does not see them as compensation. Rather, they see them as a "goodwill" offering of management's caring, and as such, can be revoked or changed whenever and however they choose.

They really don't care how you or your management see them. They will do what they want and if someone or some company pushes back, their response will be, "NO SOUP FOR YOU!"

 

[surreal1221]

I'm not talking about DALPA negotiating with Delta management. If your management team considers it a goodwill gesture, wonderful. . .

I'm talking about non-rev travel benefits on company aircraft. ie, Pinnacle employees flying on Pinnacle aircraft. Most of the regionals do consider the travel benefits to be compensation. My comments were directed towards regional CBA negotiations and the task of securing a 100% compensation model.

If I haven't made it clear already, Delta is obviously free to do whatever it is they want. Not like flying for an airline is all that and a bag of chips anyway. Might as well just piss off some more employees, that'll really inspire them.

 

[kellwolf]

I'm not talking about DALPA negotiating with Delta management. If your management team considers it a goodwill gesture, wonderful. . .

I'm talking about non-rev travel benefits on company aircraft. ie, Pinnacle employees flying on Pinnacle aircraft. Most of the regionals do consider the travel benefits to be compensation. My comments were directed towards regional CBA negotiations and the task of securing a 100% compensation model.

If I haven't made it clear already, Delta is obviously free to do whatever it is they want. Not like flying for an airline is all that and a bag of chips anyway. Might as well just piss off some more employees, that'll really inspire them.

And I agree 100%. Honestly, the company probably knows their violating the agreement by not following the contract on company aircraft. The whole "WE'RE not charging the fee, DELTA is charging the fee, so we're not violating the contract" is a load of BS. I'm pretty confident that an arbitrator or system board would see that, and it will probably take that to get the company to do right by their employees. Thing is, we could have the EXACT same wording in a new TA that reads the same way (it says the "company will not charge," so that's how they're playing it), but I personally think the NC should push for something that says "employees will be granted free travel" or something similar so they can't weasel out of it again. As for buddy passes, it's a STRAIGHT up contract violation since Section 26 specifically says we get buddy passes on company aircraft. How they figure that suddenly doesn't apply is beyond me.

The problem is gonna come when people can't separate what the company CAN agree to in a TA(which is pretty much anything concerned with travel on company aircraft) and what they can't (boarding priority on mainline aircraft, int'l days, etc).

 

[Cptnchia]

I know what you are both saying, and I agree with you. What I'm saying is that even though your company may own the planes, Delta considers the seats theirs, rightly or wrongly. Thus their heavy handed use of them. FWIW, I believe you guys are getting screwed. I just don't think you fully understand the mindset you are dealing with in mainline management. If they don't give a rip about contracts signed with their own employees, do you really think they care about any agreement between you and your management? Sucks to be all of us.