McDonald's doesn't make and sell hamburgers. McDonald's franchisees do. So whose to say who should or shouldn't fly make that hamburger or fly that plane?
You are aware the the franchise DO make and sell hamburgers per McDonald's standards, right? They also have to buy their supplies from McDonald's. Those rules really don't exist at the airline level.
I'm well aware of your definition of scope. And I'm saying that doesn't matter. What ultimately provides a job for an airline pilot is the need for a person or thing to be moved by air. All the scope in the world won't save a job if the need isn't there. A market prices is what creates the need.
If you say 100 seat scope stays at the mainline, the travel demand will still be there. It's not going away. We've seen prices already climbing thanks to bag fees, change fees, etc. Amazingly, flights are still full to capacity. Now, if you let the scope for 100 seat planes go to the regionals, those better paying jobs? They're gone. The supply and demand will still be there, but do you think the ticket prices will fall because suddenly the route is flown on an E190 by XYZ Air instead of a Delta MD-88? Nope. The flying public still pays the same for an inferior quality product.
Lots of people have education loans, lots of people rely on their health to keep their job, lots of jobs can result in death if mistakes are made.
How much do those people make? We're talking facts here, not "I know someone" or "I've seen it on TV." If a corporate CEO or mid-level manager becomes seriously ill, he misses a lot of work, but most will still retain their jobs. Airline pilots, in all likelihood, not only lose their current job, but any future jobs they may be striving for.
It's also true that one does not HAVE to take out an education loan. One need not enter a profession where their health is a factor. One can choose a lower risk job.
Yep, but good luck using your "millions of people have good QoL" argument without a college education in a low risk job.
You made those choices despite the lay of the land. Don't like how things are? Look in the mirror.
I do, and that's why I'm trying to change things and fight for my career. I'm still wondering what YOUR background is. What do you do for a living? Where did you go to school? What are you hoping to get out of Jetcareers?
In the interest of fairness, I'll even go ahead and answer my own questions. I'm a regional captain hoping to move on to either a major carrier or one of the better low cost carriers in the near future. My main goals are to live comfortably and be able to support my family in a stable (or as stable as an airline can get) environment. I recently graduated from ERAU via on-line classes, took out as few loans to do so as possible, and I did my flight training at an FBO in Orlando, another FBO in Arlington, TX and I flight instructed at the same FBO in Texas until being hired on at my current airline. I first came to Jetcareers back when I was working on my instrument looking for advice and fellow pilots to talk to. I found a LOT more than that. I've learned the good and bad, positive and negative and the ins and outs of the airlines thanks to the good people on this website. I went into this whole airline thing with my eyes open, which is a lot better than I would have if I had listened to the recruiters that were talking to me from the big flight academies in Orlando. Networking through here not only got me my CFI job, it also helped me make decisions on my current employer (first calls I made when I got the interview offers were to other JC members in the industry). JC also provides leads on potential employment opportunities further up the chain as well as an exchange of information between myself and others employed at the other regional carriers. Much as we'd like to think so, we do NOT exist in a vacuum in this industry.
What it sounds like you're saying is "Supply and demand trump all, do what your employer wants and be happy you have a job." Then you tell me to look in the mirror? You're advocating a "don't rock the boat" attitude and then saying people should feel responsible because of the career choice they made. Tell that to the US Airways guy that's staring at retirement.
So, I'll ask again: why ARE you here?
) then to just have a job waiting for me when training is done but only make $20k and SLOWLY rise from there. I know everyone here is talking supply and demand and it is true; Fewer pilots= Less jobs= better pay. I think we all agree with the needed outcome for this to happen, some just feel the ends do not justify the means while others do. YMMV. :rawk:
