Christmas Meltdown 2024

Who will suffer the most? And How?

  • (cause) Weather/snowmageddon

    Votes: 30 45.5%
  • (cause) IT/computer failure

    Votes: 25 37.9%
  • (cause) Excutive incomptetence/poor planning/lack of investment

    Votes: 23 34.8%
  • (cause) Black Swan or Aliens, the scifi kind...

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • (cause) Boeing/P&W

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • (mainline) Alaska (AS)

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • (mainline) Allegiant Air (G4)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • (mainline) American Airlines (AA)

    Votes: 25 37.9%
  • (mainline) Delta Air Lines (DL)

    Votes: 12 18.2%
  • (mainline) Frontier Airlines (F9)

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • (mainline) Hawaiian Airlines (HA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • (mainline) JetBlue (B6)

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • (mainline) Southwest Airlines (WN)

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • (mainline) Spirit Airlines (NK)

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • (mainline ) Sun Country Airline (SY)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • (mainline) United Airlines (UA)

    Votes: 12 18.2%
  • (regional) Alaska feeders: Horizon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • (regional) American Feeders: Air Wisconsin Envoy Piedmont PSA Republic

    Votes: 9 13.6%
  • (regional) Delta feeders: Endeavor Republic

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • (regional) United feeders: Commuteair Gojet Mesa Republic

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • (regional) Skywest

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • (area) Northeast BOS NYC PHL

    Votes: 24 36.4%
  • (area) Southeast ATL CLT MCO

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • (area) Southwest Texas PHX California

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • (area) Mid & Northwest ORD MSP SLC SEA STL

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • Total voters
    66
Given our propensity to put our eggs in the JFK/BOS basket I’m reasonably certain we will suffer the wrath of the Gods as we try to move people between the Northeast and Florida or the Caribbean.
Haven’t you heard, we are tripling down on culture. That protects the company from all boogeymen and events.
 
But how many of those are like twice a week.
P.S. didnt they almost have a PDX base recently? Guess that didnt pan out?
COVID. Sun County abandoned Hawaii and the West Coast ops. They were doing SFO-PDX/HNL/MSP/PSP at one point. Most of their domestic routes are daily if not a few times daily now. Same with major Mexican cities from MSP, most other international stuff is 1-4x weekly.

Edit: BTW, after trying STS-MSP years ago, they're doing MSP-MRY. A bit random. They also added OAK alongside SFO for the first time. Maybe they'll do something out West again one day.
 
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Interesting. A Russian citizen who is a U.S. LPR. Love to know the background behind that one.

Hold up hold up hold up. So the passenger spent the entirety of the flight in the Lavatory…

I would have a number of questions for the cabin crew working that area of the aircraft. Working backwards to the gate agent, to the TSA checkpoint.

I remember it was 2004 in Orlando and a passenger ran in through the exit and boarded a terminal train. The agent just stared ahead, said nothing and when I asked, he said “What do you want me to do about it? Chase him?”

“Talk to your supervisor?””
 
Hold up hold up hold up. So the passenger spent the entirety of the flight in the Lavatory…

I would have a number of questions for the cabin crew working that area of the aircraft. Working backwards to the gate agent, to the TSA checkpoint.

Yup! Along with this person’s background, how she scored LPR status here, what she does, and why she was going to Paris, along with the myriad of security hoops she managed to either navigate through or around.
 
COVID. Sun County abandoned Hawaii and the West Coast ops. They were doing SFO-PDX/HNL/MSP/PSP at one point. Most of their domestic routes are daily if not a few times daily now. Same with major Mexican cities from MSP, most other international stuff is 1-4x weekly.

Edit: BTW, after trying STS-MSP years ago, they're doing MSP-MRY. A bit random. They also added OAK alongside SFO for the first time. Maybe they'll do something out West again one day.
Are they still owned by a flooring company? Cus that seems a lot of throw it at the wall and see what sticks.
 
COVID. Sun County abandoned Hawaii and the West Coast ops. They were doing SFO-PDX/HNL/MSP/PSP at one point. Most of their domestic routes are daily if not a few times daily now. Same with major Mexican cities from MSP, most other international stuff is 1-4x weekly.

Edit: BTW, after trying STS-MSP years ago, they're doing MSP-MRY. A bit random. They also added OAK alongside SFO for the first time. Maybe they'll do something out West again one day.

I do remember flying a low approach over KEUG last January and popping out to see a SC painted jet on TWY A headed to the runway. But I think they were using a Boeing callsign. So probably some company test. This was in the immediate aftermath of 1282 IIRC. I'm sure this comment is about is great as Barb's Facebook comment on some tangentially related subject that her "husband served in the coast guard for 33 years!"
 
Hold up hold up hold up. So the passenger spent the entirety of the flight in the Lavatory…

I would have a number of questions for the cabin crew working that area of the aircraft. Working backwards to the gate agent, to the TSA checkpoint.
Heh, this is not the wildest “cabin crew entirely checked out” story I have heard lately….
 
Heh, this is not the wildest “cabin crew entirely checked out” story I have heard lately….

I've definitely seen this happen as a pax, and on derg's airline no less. I dunno, can they do anything once someone goes in there and locks the door? Is there a master key somewhere?
 
I've definitely seen this happen as a pax, and on derg's airline no less. I dunno, can they do anything once someone goes in there and locks the door? Is there a master key somewhere?

The little latch thing has a handle on both sides of the door. It's just underneath a metal plate on the outside. How else do you think they secure a lav after a biohazard incident or for an MEL?
 
I've definitely seen this happen as a pax, and on derg's airline no less. I dunno, can they do anything once someone goes in there and locks the door? Is there a master key somewhere?

Wait a second, I know we both fly the same plane. You’re FA’s don’t lock the bathroom for you when you take a break? It turns the occupied sign on to keep paxs from getting up.

You just flip up the little cover and unlock it


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Wait a second, I know we both fly the same plane. You’re FA’s don’t lock the bathroom for you when you take a break? It turns the occupied sign on to keep paxs from getting up.

You just flip up the little cover and unlock it


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Weird. The more things you know I suppose :) No, I lock my own door during the pee breaks, from the inside of the lav. But now I am interested in seeing their response when I ask them to from now on
 
Weird. The more things you know I suppose :) No, I lock my own door during the pee breaks, from the inside of the lav. But now I am interested in seeing their response when I ask them to from now on

Haha, I mean as you walk out of the cockpit . The lav will already be locked for you. You have to unlock it to get it. And then you lock it on the way out to keep the occupied light on the entire time.

Tbf it did blow me away the first time. FA laughed when I couldn’t figure out how to get in. I said “is someone in here?” Ooof.
 
Haha, I mean as you walk out of the cockpit . The lav will already be locked for you. You have to unlock it to get it. And then you lock it on the way out to keep the occupied light on the entire time.

Tbf it did blow me away the first time. FA laughed when I couldn’t figure out how to get in. I said “is someone in here?” Ooof.

haha oh I understand now. But no, ours don't do that either. I feel like a peasant now :)
 
I'm pretty certain someone is going to have a bad Thanksgiving over this...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/travel/stowaway-delta-newyork-paris-intl-hnk/index.html
I wonder if the person unlocked a cheat code for getting through pretty much all the layers of security.

Maybe now the issue of not having enough agents at the gate will be addressed. Having done this job for SJI I’ve worked a gate by myself most of the time. It’s not bad in the beginning stages of boarding but as you get closer to “crunch time” it gets hard to watch the door, board, and worry about gate checking bags. It’s chaotic for domestic flights but international is an entirely different beast sometimes.

It sucks but there’s definitely a hefty fine in some hourly employee’s future soon.
 
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