I know the lead FA from that flight, he’s still around. The SO spoke Farsi so that was helpful as well!
Azerbaijan Airlines Crash
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I know the lead FA from that flight, he’s still around. The SO spoke Farsi so that was helpful as well!
Oh most definitely. As one who has had MANPADs shot at me, I can well appreciate prox fuzing, or in my cases, the lack of effective ones on the early models. The prox is mainly for a maneuvering target, so the SAM can get an effective kill if it’s in danger of being outmaneuvered by its target. For a big non-maneuvering target, the prox would still fuse, but usually as the missile is or shortly about, to skewer the target like a shish kabob. Just interesting the non maneuvering airliner wasn’t skewered. Or maybe it was. Hasn’t been completely clear in reporting.
SA-22 then. Yeah, the double digit SAM club, a club that is difficult to avoid if you’re a fighter, much less a transport. SA-17 for MH17, ironically. These systems, from the SA-10 upward, were systems we would have a very difficult time evading. Multiple leaves of SAM avoidance maneuvering, if you even get that chance, will likely be ineffective on these systems once they are airborne. Defeating them pre-launch, whether electronically or kinetically, is about the only chance of not getting tagged by them.
The SO is lucky he wasn’t kept there as their “guest””
Wardogg
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Chris_Ford
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I'm not sure why two users who do nothing but incite arguments and parrot narratives that are harmful to western society continue to be permitted to post on this site. It's truly embarrassing the things they say.
Just take the garbage out. You banned me for much less
Just take the garbage out. You banned me for much less
jhugz
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I'm not sure why two users who do nothing but incite arguments and parrot narratives that are harmful to western society continue to be permitted to post on this site. It's truly embarrassing the things they say.
Just take the garbage out. You banned me for much less
Agreed.
Here we have a thread about an airliner shot down by Russia. Instead of talking about the crew and the lives they saved, this thread spiraled into a clown show by two Putin/Trump bootlickers and probably needs to be flushed to the lav.
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Autothrust Blue
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I think the ayes have it. The ayes have it.I'm not sure why two users who do nothing but incite arguments and parrot narratives that are harmful to western society continue to be permitted to post on this site. It's truly embarrassing the things they say.
Just take the garbage out. You banned me for much less
I'm not sure why two users who do nothing but incite arguments and parrot narratives that are harmful to western society continue to be permitted to post on this site. It's truly embarrassing the things they say.
Just take the garbage out. You banned me for much less
I did, didn’t I?
Chris_Ford
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You took the recycling out and I am back babyI did, didn’t I?
Boris Badenov
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Judging by the pictures I've seen, the damage was mostly on the empennage.
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
I'm not sure why two users who do nothing but incite arguments and parrot narratives that are harmful to western society continue to be permitted to post on this site. It's truly embarrassing the things they say.
Just take the garbage out. You banned me for much less
Yup. They’re ruining every thread.
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
Happens all the time.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
“Parrot narratives harmful to western society”
Wow. That’s the most open ended statement I’ve read on this site.
Wow. That’s the most open ended statement I’ve read on this site.
I'm not sure why two users who do nothing but incite arguments and parrot narratives that are harmful to western society continue to be permitted to post on this site. It's truly embarrassing the things they say.
Just take the garbage out. You banned me for much less
I made some adjustments to user permissions in this thread. Let me know how it goes.
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
Not all heroes wear capes
melax
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Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
And then they play the victim.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
I mean, they can have their wrong opinions; it’s the continuous aggrieved nature that wears one out.
Putin really has no respect for international norms and rules; in this respect, well, the next four years are gonna be wild here too.
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
If this happened the way it looks like it happened the flight crew are absolute heroes.
One could argue that being refused an emergency landing clearance should have been followed by “I’m sorry, you’re breaking up” but I’ve thought about this kind of situation a lot since learning about United 232, if I’m going to try to land a plane with major flight control issues, I’d like to spend some time figuring out the new characteristics before purposefully taking it anywhere near the ground.
It’s incredible that anyone survived.