JordanD
Chinese Food Enthusiast
It’s kind of funny when they brief you on the diaper bungee jump thing on the 757.
Asiana Door Opened in Flight
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BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
I can't find the video right now, but we had a sensor fail, and every door warning light started flashing at about 200 feet going in to Boston one morning. DeltaP was zero on the ground, and once we got to the gate I opened my window up just to make sure, but none of the FAs were willing to open the door so we had to send the RO out to do it.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
That’ll wake you up after a red eye
None of the FAs were willing to open up the door, haha! Did you show them the open cockpit window with air flowing back and forth?
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
For the cabin crew for sure. We didn't know anything about it until we blocked in and the First called up to tell us what was going on.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
None of the FAs were willing to open up the door, haha! Did you show them the open cockpit window with air flowing back and forth?
Yes. But it's very clear in their manual that they are not to touch that door when the light is flashing. I don't blame them.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Oh the lights on the actual door. I was picturing cas messages or master caution lights. Got it
Minuteman
“Dongola”
You just haven't landed hard enough yet.
I agree. But once they are shown a giant hole in the aircraft in the form of an open cockpit window, some common sense should prevail.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
That's where you make a call and get it on a recorded line with approval to disregard a manual. Setting a precedent of ignoring a manual because we think it's common sense is a slippery slope. Recorded lines are your friend in times like this.
Beep
Well-Known Member
Also engine exhaust, brake dust and tire smoke & smell on landing, and taxiing in all 3 of those smells would make their way in that open L3 door.
I could see it causing distress to some people.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
Passenger smells are bad enough. Don't want to add extra.
JordanD
Chinese Food Enthusiast
Despite my best efforts…
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Yeah that seems like a prime example of “not my •in job” for them
Wouldn’t be the FAs disregarding a manual on their own authority. Should be the Captains call one way or another, once the FAs (rightfully) called the cockpit to inform them of the situation, and the cockpit crew checked it out, thus placing the decision on the Captain as the approval authority. Good CRM and all. The RO had to be sent back to do the job anyway, it seems.
It’s not like the FAs would’ve been opening the door with zero permission as if it was any normal circumstance and simply disregarding the flashing light. I’m sure (I hope) there was some coordination and permission to open the door from the Capt, of the fact the pressure diff was confirmed to be zero and there’s a hole in the fuselage in the form of an open cockpit window, with free flowing air going back and forth into the cabin. A light that is supposed to be showing a pressure differential problem, when there’s obviously no pressure diff at all and confirmed as such by the cockpit crew. I highly doubt the Captain would clear them to open a door that is in any way potentially unsafe to open.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
True. But you still call maintenance first to get clearance to open the door. Just to make sure there's nothing else that could be set off. Any time something goes wrong, you have to get a second opinion.
Wardogg
Meat Popsicle
Allegedly the guy is claiming he had claustrophobia. Here is a comment from a news article I was reading about the incident.
"As someone who travels a little bit and has a slight case of claustrophobia, I can say that this is no justification for opening a door while the jet is 700 feet up off the ground. He either has to learn to get his claustrophobia under control or not fly at all. You can't put other passengers at fear because of your own problems. Get an aisle seat. Put the air on. If none of this works don't fly. This man needs prison time and that's when he can really work on his claustrophobia."
Thank you Capt. Obvious for informing us all that claustrophobia is not justification for opening airplane doors in flight.
God help us all.
"As someone who travels a little bit and has a slight case of claustrophobia, I can say that this is no justification for opening a door while the jet is 700 feet up off the ground. He either has to learn to get his claustrophobia under control or not fly at all. You can't put other passengers at fear because of your own problems. Get an aisle seat. Put the air on. If none of this works don't fly. This man needs prison time and that's when he can really work on his claustrophobia."
Thank you Capt. Obvious for informing us all that claustrophobia is not justification for opening airplane doors in flight.
God help us all.
tlove482
Well-Known Member
Why can't the captain just open the door?
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
More information than you ever wanted.
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Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
I'm pretty sure we were just to run the manual vertical speed control up until the outflow valve was open at Yellow if the light was flashing, but I'm flushing that stuff as rapidly as possible.
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