AS application question-employment history

So, let me just make sure I understand you correctly.

You're willing to take something like a 63% pay cut, from $232 to $85, just to drive to work.

That's going from $17,400 a month to $6,375 per month.

If you spent $300 a week buying tickets for your commute, you'd STILL be coming out ahead by around $9,000 a month.

I'm not saying it's ideal, not by a long shot, but if I told my wife I was going to take that kind of a pay cut because I was angry about watching movies for 12 hours a week, she'd divorce me, because it would be clear she had married a fool.
I agree with you on most things. A pay cut like that would probably be almost impossible. That said, a long term transcon commute would TOTALLY SUCK the life out of me. Maybe because I just ended 10 years of commuting and I drive to work now. I couldn’t go back.
 
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I got the LAX base when NYC closed. SEA is Boeing only and we can't bid across the Boeing side yet, and who knows if I might even be able to after SLI? There are rumors that mgt is actively looking at a SEA Bus base. If I can hold that then yeah that's a real possibility too. No state income tax, house prices similar to south Bay LA, lower sales tax, etc.
You can have ACY here, if ya want. :D
 
I agree with you on most things. A pay cut like that would probably be almost impossible. That said, a long term transcon commute would TOTALLY SUCK the life out of me. Maybe because I just ended 10 years of commuting and I drive to work now. I couldn’t go back.

Oh the solution is move. We get 2 yrs to use the company-paid moving benefits. I have no intention of doing this long term to myself and worse, the kids/wife. For the time being I got the NY virual base and am NY based for November. I can probably hold that for Dec-March 1 which is end of Feb bid period. Those 4 months (if I can hold them all) would be sitting reserve from home covering EWR/JFK.

You had guys leave AK for Envoy?

1 for sure. Rumor is 1 more too. Remember they are only doing this for the TPIC to go to another legacy and worse case flow to AA.
 
If only there was a way to switch. I'm sure there's no shortages of 7th yr CAs at Spirit and especially jetBlue who live in CA yet commute to the east coast bases. I'd gladly take JFK CA at jetBlue or even ACY CA at Spirit in exchange for my LAX CA.

Believe it or not, on the bottom end of captains LAS is one of our Jr domiciles...

I doubt anyone is commuting to ACY as a captain that doesn't want to be there. DTW and ACY are incredibly senior for captains here. (and MCO now). most jr LAS captain is a 2015 hire
 
Believe it or not, on the bottom end of captains LAS is one of our Jr domiciles...

I doubt anyone is commuting to ACY as a captain that doesn't want to be there. DTW and ACY are incredibly senior for captains here. (and MCO now). most jr LAS captain is a 2015 hire

Oh yeah I forgot LAS is a NK base. I guess my comment is really valid only for jetBlue, an airline that shares one thing in common with AS: pilot bases located pretty much entirely on one coast (except LGB, which apparently is on a chopping block).
 
Oh yeah I forgot LAS is a NK base. I guess my comment is really valid only for jetBlue, an airline that shares one thing in common with AS: pilot bases located pretty much entirely on one coast (except LGB, which apparently is on a chopping block).
ah yes.

That isn't to say that LAS doesn't get left by the wayside... or the whole west really...
But there's 0 talk of closing it or anything like that. so that's good!
 
Oh yeah I forgot LAS is a NK base. I guess my comment is really valid only for jetBlue, an airline that shares one thing in common with AS: pilot bases located pretty much entirely on one coast (except LGB, which apparently is on a chopping block).

It has shrunk, that's for sure, but no closures have been announced. The company can't even displace pilots until next year unless they expedite certain sections of the CBA implementation.
 
ah yes.

That isn't to say that LAS doesn't get left by the wayside... or the whole west really...
But there's 0 talk of closing it or anything like that. so that's good!

I think LAS is a great market, especially for the redeye bank operation. Both NK and F9 rule that now but 'back in the day' America West made an entire hub of it until US Airways merged and shut LAS down.
 
I'm a CA at an AA owned regional, expect to flow in 1.5 years. Currently drive to work but have sights on moving back to the PNW and would really value being able to drive to work. How much value is there in driving to work SEA or PDX for Alaska vs commuting to AA? that's the big question. AA best case scenario is commute SEA or PDX to LAX or PHX.

Cons of getting on with Alaska:
I'd be giving up a lot of movement on the seniority list at AA.
lower pay
...

Granted, I haven't even applied for Alaska or even expect that a job there is a given.

I know of someone who spent over a decade commuting from Walla Walla to CLT for a regional. It's a different era now though.
 
I'm a CA at an AA owned regional, expect to flow in 1.5 years. Currently drive to work but have sights on moving back to the PNW and would really value being able to drive to work. How much value is there in driving to work SEA or PDX for Alaska vs commuting to AA? that's the big question. AA best case scenario is commute SEA or PDX to LAX or PHX.

Cons of getting on with Alaska:
I'd be giving up a lot of movement on the seniority list at AA.
lower pay
...

Granted, I haven't even applied for Alaska or even expect that a job there is a given.

I know of someone who spent over a decade commuting from Walla Walla to CLT for a regional. It's a different era now though.
@Cherokee_Cruiser is probably willing to swap identities with you
 
I'm a CA at an AA owned regional, expect to flow in 1.5 years. Currently drive to work but have sights on moving back to the PNW and would really value being able to drive to work. How much value is there in driving to work SEA or PDX for Alaska vs commuting to AA? that's the big question. AA best case scenario is commute SEA or PDX to LAX or PHX.

Cons of getting on with Alaska:
I'd be giving up a lot of movement on the seniority list at AA.
lower pay
...

Granted, I haven't even applied for Alaska or even expect that a job there is a given.

I know of someone who spent over a decade commuting from Walla Walla to CLT for a regional. It's a different era now though.

STAY at your regional and take the flow, since you're so close! Go to AA and see how you like it, then if you're really jonesing for the eskimo apply. But you are much better off at AA in every regard.
 
I'm a CA at an AA owned regional, expect to flow in 1.5 years. Currently drive to work but have sights on moving back to the PNW and would really value being able to drive to work. How much value is there in driving to work SEA or PDX for Alaska vs commuting to AA? that's the big question. AA best case scenario is commute SEA or PDX to LAX or PHX.

Cons of getting on with Alaska:
I'd be giving up a lot of movement on the seniority list at AA.
lower pay
...

Granted, I haven't even applied for Alaska or even expect that a job there is a given.

I know of someone who spent over a decade commuting from Walla Walla to CLT for a regional. It's a different era now though.
I’m not an expert, but in researching Alaska everyone I know who has been hired there lately applied at least 3 windows. Given that they’ve been opening the window once a year, your chances of being hired there before your AA flow seem pretty low. I’d still do horrible things for a job at AS but put me in the camp that says you’ll probably be better off flowing.
 
Just flow and move to LAX. Use that wide body pay to afford a nice house in the San Juan’s.
I'm a CA at an AA owned regional, expect to flow in 1.5 years. Currently drive to work but have sights on moving back to the PNW and would really value being able to drive to work. How much value is there in driving to work SEA or PDX for Alaska vs commuting to AA? that's the big question. AA best case scenario is commute SEA or PDX to LAX or PHX.

Cons of getting on with Alaska:
I'd be giving up a lot of movement on the seniority list at AA.
lower pay
...

Granted, I haven't even applied for Alaska or even expect that a job there is a given.

I know of someone who spent over a decade commuting from Walla Walla to CLT for a regional. It's a different era now though.
 
Thanks for the replies. Yes, it does seem like a lot to give up just for a PNW base. All things considered I suppose commuting to LAX from SEA can't be too bad. I moved for my current shop because I didn't want to commute across the country and all the time zone changes. SEA to LAX is at least the same time zone....
 
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