American Eagle Stuck mic

The real fun is when people try to check in with Oceanic over common.

"United 414, Santa Maria, here comes your SELCAL check... OOOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEEE..."
 
Derg said:
The real fun is when people try to check in with Oceanic over common.

"United 414, Santa Maria, here comes your SELCAL check... OOOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEEE..."
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Pretending to be an ops agent on guard is pretty fun, too.

I mean, not that such unprofessional shenanigans have any place in an airline cockpit, of course.
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Autothrust Blue said:
Okay. We actually went back to LAX; we would have had to burn our alternate fuel to hang out. It took them 20-25 minutes to corral the pelican after closing the airport so I'm glad we went back.

Here (MP3 target; this starts about 23 minutes in, and you can hear my horrible radio voice.)

Best part is, though, Police One: "I've got a great shot from here..."
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Can't listen to it on my phone but I really hope tall skinny Doug has the corporate pilot voice going on.
 
tomokc said:
An instructor was teaching spin recovery (prohibited according to the syllabus) to his primary student in a Tomahawk (not spin-rated) after departing the Class D. The anxious student death-gripped the yoke and keyed the mic on tower freq for about 10 minutes while they went round & round, with the student crying like a little school girl.
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Au contraire. Tomahawks were designed specifically to be spin recovery trainers. The 150 was too easy. It didn't want to spin, so the "recovery method" of panic, taking your hands off the yoke to cover your eyes and screaming worked quite well. Piper decided to make a training plane that would necessitate the use of correct and sustained control inputs in order to effect recovery. Problem was, most instructors didn't read the manual and reverted to using the "See no evil, feel no evil" 152 recovery method described above. This, of course, didn't work and many "Traumahawks" (imo, unfairly named) augered in. The Tomahawk will recover just fine... but you've gotta hold the correct inputs, not just do random stuff or nothing at all.
I won't even start to talk about Cirrus... grump, grump... ;)
 
Crop Duster said:
Like this? ...
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Like that, although I'd rather take one there than on a propeller all other things considered. Structural damage like that makes for a good Facebook post (or whatever), but structural damage to a prop might result in loss of a blade and, consequently, me not being around to talk about it.
 
Crop Duster said:
Au contraire. Tomahawks were designed specifically to be spin recovery trainers. The 150 was too easy. It didn't want to spin, so the "recovery method" of panic, taking your hands off the yoke to cover your eyes and screaming worked quite well. Piper decided to make a training plane that would necessitate the use of correct and sustained control inputs in order to effect recovery. Problem was, most instructors didn't read the manual and reverted to using the "See no evil, feel no evil" 152 recovery method described above. This, of course, didn't work and many "Traumahawks" (imo, unfairly named) augered in. The Tomahawk will recover just fine... but you've gotta hold the correct inputs, not just do random stuff or nothing at all.
I won't even start to talk about Cirrus... grump, grump... ;)
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I don't think so. After the "stuck mic" incident one of the Tomahawks was discovered to have a rudder ready to separate from the vertical stabilizer. The skin which comprises the left and right control surfaces join inside the vertical stabilizer by two or three "tabs" of that skin, if you will. That is all that held the rudder to the vertical stab. On a preflight of one of the aircraft, the "tabs" were discovered to have broken, and the rudder would have most likely separated on that flight, whether spun or not. We grounded them all, and all were discovered to have varying degrees of failure.

If it doesn't specifically say it's OK to spin it, then don't spin it.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Like that, although I'd rather take one there than on a propeller all other things considered. Structural damage like that makes for a good Facebook post (or whatever), but structural damage to a prop might result in loss of a blade and, consequently, me not being around to talk about it.
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True. At AMF we had someone take a small hawk into the intake of a Garrett. Somehow it didn't tag a prop and didn't get to the first compressor. Was weird.

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Maurus said:
True. At AMF we had someone take a small hawk into the intake of a Garrett. Somehow it didn't tag a prop and didn't get to the first compressor. Was weird.

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Thus far, the only wildlife I've struck with airplanes has been on the ground, and it's been sparrows or swallows. (Either African, or European.) What was left of the poor bastards, it seemed, inertialed out of the S-duct.

I'm actually rather surprised at the low amount of wildlife I collide with. I have a buddy who, I swear, kills two or three birds a month.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Like that, although I'd rather take one there than on a propeller all other things considered. Structural damage like that makes for a good Facebook post (or whatever), but structural damage to a prop might result in loss of a blade and, consequently, me not being around to talk about it.
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How about all that bird jelly squishing through the avionics?
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The one spin I've done so far was in a 172S, and that thing didn't seem to want to recover itself. In fact, it didn't want to recover with the proper recovery procedures. Judging by the CFI's reaction, I'd assume things went a little wrong. We lost over 4,000 feet.
 
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Acrofox said:
I agree.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulator...54021f0c8564086257212006c3447/$FILE/A18SO.pdf

(TL;DR: It specifically says it's OK to spin it)

And by the way, I got my private in a Tomahawk. Fantastic airplane. Recovers from spins very nicely using PARE. Perhaps not Beggs Mueller, or more creative approaches, or the 172 "roller coaster" recovery ("hands up, feet up for fun!").

~Fox
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Appropriate use of TLDR. Well played.


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