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Autothrust Blue said:
Well you would have been ridiculously uncomfortable for an hour and change. Glad you got home okay even if you had to rely on the jet.

Of course...If I were commuting, I wouldn't rely upon the Brasilia. Unfortunately, they have made the people fatter and the airplanes heavier without giving us a takeoff weight increase above 26,433 pounds—especially in the wintertime. The customer service-flight deck crew communications about if there are non-revs standing around up there isn't always great either. "Ehhhh 27 and that's it!" (Well, maybe it is, and maybe it isn't.) I always do my best, but the FO's power is pretty limited on this subject.
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I went up there most every time...but if the FO needed to go I would have him advise if there some non-revs not being represented my CS...

I had a couple of time where I told CS we can take 28 revs and one jumpseater or 27 revs and no jumpseater...that went over like a lead balloon...but it worked...and it was. true..both out of LAX too.
 
to put it a nut shell, the ATC system is there to protect the fare paying public from the airlines.
 
Bumblebee said:
I went up there most every time...but if the FO needed to go I would have him advise if there some non-revs not being represented my CS...

I had a couple of time where I told CS we can take 28 revs and one jumpseater or 27 revs and no jumpseater...that went over like a lead balloon...but it worked...and it was. true..both out of LAX too.
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I felt sorry for anyone who had to commute to a Brasilia city other than a lighter one like CIC or MOD. Even though SMF is closer than CIC, pax are usually coming in from overseas when they take that flight and have lots of bags, usually around 30-35 checked. Still wouldn't be a big problem if dispatch would let the planes re-fuel in the more expensive outstations instead of carrying a roundtrip load from SFO. What costs more, the fuel savings, or getting hotels and $600 travel credits to 5 bumped and angry pax and commuters missing work? Never understood that. Well actually, since United covers the cost of denied boarding for the pax, guess they just don't care in SGU.

On SFO-OTH though, which I've seen booked to 32 and weight restricted to 20(using 19s at SFO), a 2 hour flight and every pax checking a bag and an oversized golf bag of which you can never fit more than 12 or so in the pit, that route should have been all RJ from the start. When the seasonal RJ isn't around, they usually have to ship the golf clubs up on UA's dime using FedEx Ground.
 
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Autothrust Blue said:
Well you would have been ridiculously uncomfortable for an hour and change. Glad you got home okay even if you had to rely on the jet. Of course...If I were commuting, I wouldn't rely upon the Brasilia. Unfortunately, they have made the people fatter and the airplanes heavier without giving us a takeoff weight increase above 26,433 pounds—especially in the wintertime. The customer service-flight deck crew communications about if there are non-revs standing around up there isn't always great either. "Ehhhh 27 and that's it!" (Well, maybe it is, and maybe it isn't.) I always do my best, but the FO's power is pretty limited on this subject.
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it's that light?! The Saab was 29,000!
 
Screaming_Emu said:
Another thing to keep in mind when talking in the flight deck is the CVR. Yeah, the chances are slim, but if you ball it up and people have to listen to your last words, your family will already be rather distraught, don't say anything that'll make it worse.

Really a good rule of thumb for when you're not flying as well.
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"OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU SEE THOSE TENTACLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<Thud>
<Static>

If I ball one up I am going to keep the NTSB guessing for years!!! :)
 
X-Forces said:
"OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU SEE THOSE TENTACLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<Thud>
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If I ball one up I am going to keep the NTSB guessing for years!!! :)
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I've been meaning to get some monkey bones and keep them in a plastic bag in my flight kit. If I'm ever about to crash I'm going to start screaming
"WHERE DID THAT MONKEY COME FROM!!??"

I'll be laughing my ass off in hell.
 
Dugie8 said:
I've been meaning to get some monkey bones and keep them in a plastic bag in my flight kit. If I'm ever about to crash I'm going to start screaming
"WHERE DID THAT MONKEY COME FROM!!??"

I'll be laughing my ass off in hell.
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Dude, you stole my plan. I like the addition of monkey bones though. Genius!
 
Screaming_Emu said:
FIFY
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I flew with a captain who said that was his go to line. "Oh my god! Did you see the size of the testicles on that thing?" I also was on a 737 jumpseat a while back where the captain kicked the center pedestal with his foot right after rotation. He said if they crashed he wanted them to spend months wondering what that clunking noise was right after the gear came up.
 
BobDDuck said:
I flew with a captain who said that was his go to line. "Oh my god! Did you see the size of the testicles on that thing?" I also was on a 737 jumpseat a while back where the captain kicked the center pedestal with his foot right after rotation. He said if they crashed he wanted them to spend months wondering what that clunking noise was right after the gear came up.
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How about...

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... Not crashing!
 
Derg said:
How about...

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... Not crashing!
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IDK, I figure I'll be too busy to be witty. Hopefully you won't catch my last breath unless you happen to be sleeping next to me when I'm 120 years old. So consider my silence (should something else happen) my commitment to being here with all of you as long as possible.
 
Bumblebee said:
IDK, I figure I'll be too busy to be witty. Hopefully you won't catch my last breath unless you happen to be sleeping next to me when I'm 120 years old. So consider my silence (should something else happen) my commitment to being here with all of you as long as possible.
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I dunno. I hit a deer on the way to work this morning. I was going the speed limit(ish). My car is pretty fornicated. Still had the presence of mind to think "sweet, no work for me today." As I pulled off the road. Other than being pissed at the damage because I love my car, I don't think my pulse increased at all throughout the whole thing.

In fact, in the few emergencies I've had in this job, I've found throwing a little humor out can help relax a coworker that might be stressing out a little bit too much.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
I dunno. I hit a deer on the way to work this morning. I was going the speed limit(ish). My car is pretty fornicated. Still had the presence of mind to think "sweet, no work for me today." As I pulled off the road. Other than being pissed at the damage because I love my car, I don't think my pulse increased at all throughout the whole thing. In fact, in the few emergencies I've had in this job, I've found throwing a little humor out can help relax a coworker that might be stressing out a little bit too much.
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Clean hit? Keep any venison? 8)
 
scooter2525 said:
I stand corrected.

Those who have flown controllers recently, is there much discussion on either side of improvements?
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We only get to take up to two fam trips a year, but this forum is a pretty good option if you want to open discussions in the meantime. I've been able to clarify several things through the Pilot/Controller forum that have helped me.
 
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