ALPA Pride Laynard

ChasenSFO said:
OK...well the topic is supporting LGBTQ people so...yeah, won't be a kind response.
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But the response could be kind... reading this thread reminded me of my first encounter with bigotry within aviation many years ago when I was a relatively new regional FO. We were at our hub located in a hot and humid area of the country. We had a jumpseater up front with us in the Saab and once we were all loaded the doors closed, air conditioning hose was pulled, and we sat seemingly forever waiting for our ground team to finish loading planeside bags and hook up the tug. Between a drips of sweat falling from my face I hear a muffled “bunch of lazy N-words and S-words.” from our jumpseater. Hot and irritable myself I turned to give the jumpseater a few choice words of what I thought of his remark. The Captain I was flying with beat me to it calmly remarking, “it’s 100+ degrees out on that ramp with no breeze... I’d be moving pretty slow myself if I was subjected to that.” and then called for a checklist.
Later on in cruise I was still incredibly hot under the collar and was waiting for an opportunity to let our “Richard cranium” jumpseater know that I didn’t appreciate his earlier comment. But I never got that chance... my Captain (whom I had only flown one previous leg with) asked me if I was married... “No” I responded and then the Captain told us that his wife had just given birth to his second child the week prior. He reached into his flight bag, pulled out some photos, proudly showed us photos of his boys and his wife. To my absolute surprise his wife was a beautiful black woman... oh boy I thought now the Captain is going to let him have it. But he never did... we landed, taxied in, and shut down. The Captain shook the jumpseaters hand and told him he could ride with us anytime. After everyone had deplaned and I had finished the walk around I asked the Captain why he didn’t kick the guy off the plane back at the hub or why he didn’t dress down the jumpseater for his comment.
“Simple” he said, “People that are bigots are basically dumb children. Raising your voice rarely works, confrontation makes them double down, but kindness makes them feel awkward, stupid, and ashamed. That man learned a lesson today that will last a lifetime.”
The Captain made his point without being nasty and never lost his cool. I learned that you can always be kind... we choose whether or not to be nasty/demeaning/etc.
 
Avalon781ML said:
But the response could be kind... reading this thread reminded me of my first encounter with bigotry within aviation many years ago when I was a relatively new regional FO. We were at our hub located in a hot and humid area of the country. We had a jumpseater up front with us in the Saab and once we were all loaded the doors closed, air conditioning hose was pulled, and we sat seemingly forever waiting for our ground team to finish loading planeside bags and hook up the tug. Between a drips of sweat falling from my face I hear a muffled “bunch of lazy N-words and S-words.” from our jumpseater. Hot and irritable myself I turned to give the jumpseater a few choice words of what I thought of his remark. The Captain I was flying with beat me to it calmly remarking, “it’s 100+ degrees out on that ramp with no breeze... I’d be moving pretty slow myself if I was subjected to that.” and then called for a checklist.
Later on in cruise I was still incredibly hot under the collar and was waiting for an opportunity to let our “Richard cranium” jumpseater know that I didn’t appreciate his earlier comment. But I never got that chance... my Captain (whom I had only flown one previous leg with) asked me if I was married... “No” I responded and then the Captain told us that his wife had just given birth to his second child the week prior. He reached into his flight bag, pulled out some photos, proudly showed us photos of his boys and his wife. To my absolute surprise his wife was a beautiful black woman... oh boy I thought now the Captain is going to let him have it. But he never did... we landed, taxied in, and shut down. The Captain shook the jumpseaters hand and told him he could ride with us anytime. After everyone had deplaned and I had finished the walk around I asked the Captain why he didn’t kick the guy off the plane back at the hub or why he didn’t dress down the jumpseater for his comment.
“Simple” he said, “People that are bigots are basically dumb children. Raising your voice rarely works, confrontation makes them double down, but kindness makes them feel awkward, stupid, and ashamed. That man learned a lesson today that will last a lifetime.”
The Captain made his point without being nasty and never lost his cool. I learned that you can always be kind... we choose whether or not to be nasty/demeaning/etc.
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How did you get a jumpseater up front on the Saab? That’s impressive
 
QXDX said:
I'm not claiming anything. I'm just pointing out how some on here signal their inclusiveness and tolerance while attacking anyone that doesn't conform with the mainstream opinion; CC being an example. He is attacked as much as his posts are.
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That's because he's a troll. There are plenty of posters here who disagree with the consensus, and they aren't treated as CC is, because they aren't trolls.

If you don't act like bigot, you won't be treated as a bigot. If you don't act like a troll, you won't be treated as a troll. This isn't difficult.

And I'll point out, you still didn't provide any concrete examples.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
No breakaway, though (our MEC-issue ones have them, if memory serves...my badge is here somewhere, I think).
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That's because your MEC used my design... because at the time, and maybe still, we shared CommSpecs. Although, if I recall, they didn't think about the whole western world convention of reading left-to-right and not looking across someone's chest to read the text on the lanyard.
 
I spent a lot of effort getting ours as close to perfect as possible because it was never intended to be a throw a away lanyard. And typically they are used for one event and then tossed in a closet. And I always hated the design elements that went into the generic lanyard that they have 20 million of sitting around.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
That's because he's a troll. There are plenty of posters here who disagree with the consensus, and they aren't treated as CC is, because they aren't trolls.

If you don't act like bigot, you won't be treated as a bigot. If you don't act like a troll, you won't be treated as a troll. This isn't difficult.

And I'll point out, you still didn't provide any concrete examples.
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I’m not a troll, no matter how many times you and jynxjoe repeat it. You just don’t like the subject matter discussions with opposing viewpoints.
For example, when you and others start with writing off anyone that would vote for Trump in 2020, that doesn’t make me the troll. That’s just one small example.
 
ClearedForOption said:
That's because your MEC used my design... because at the time, and maybe still, we shared CommSpecs. Although, if I recall, they didn't think about the whole western world convention of reading left-to-right and not looking across someone's chest to read the text on the lanyard.
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I always found it...odd, that the emergency number was on the lanyard.
 
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