Say what you will, Jerry never did this…

[Autothrust Blue]

FIFY

Don’t get me started. Or do, I dunno, slow morning.

 

[Karnage]

Don’t get me started. Or do, I dunno, slow morning.

Get back to me after you have to talk a guy down from practically declaring an emergency just because we were delayed on arrival until after tower closed for the night.

 

[Wardogg]

Get back to me after you have to talk a guy down from practically declaring an emergency just because we were delayed on arrival until after tower closed for the night.

I once heard this exchange near an untowered field during IFR conditions.

Paraphrased some.

Appr Ctrl: Regional carrier cleared for the RNAV approach radar services terminated change to advisory frequency approved
Regional carrier: You cant terminate our radar services, we are IFR
Regional carrier: How are we supposed to stay clear of other traffic we are IMC.
Appr Ctrl: .............
Appr Ctrl: There are no radar targets between you and the field sir.
Regional Carrier: .......but we are on an IFR clearance.
Appr Ctrl: I can't see you on the radar anymore. What would you have me do?
Regional carrier landed uneventfully

 

[NovemberEcho]

I once heard this exchange near an untowered field during IFR conditions.

Paraphrased some.

Appr Ctrl: Regional carrier cleared for the RNAV approach radar services terminated change to advisory frequency approved
Regional carrier: You cant terminate our radar services, we are IFR
Regional carrier: How are we supposed to stay clear of other traffic we are IMC.
Appr Ctrl: .............
Appr Ctrl: There are no radar targets between you and the field sir.
Regional Carrier: .......but we are on an IFR clearance.
Appr Ctrl: I can't see you on the radar anymore. What would you have me do?
Regional carrier landed uneventfully

Southwest used to cancel in the air going into ECP lol

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Southwest used to cancel in the air going into ECP lol

This is an old Jetcareers argument, etc.

Get back to me after you have to talk a guy down from practically declaring an emergency just because we were delayed on arrival until after tower closed for the night.

Yeah. I know.

 

[Skåning]

“Any traffic in the area please advise”

 

[Fixtur]

Southwest used to cancel in the air going into ECP lol

This is the way.

 

[Kingairer]

Southwest used to cancel in the air going into ECP lol

Different airlines have different rules for canceling early (not talking about the crew not understand what radar services terminated means). I’ve flown for airlines were VFR was prohibited and at my currently airline it is allowed under certain circumstances.

 

[ahw01]

“Any traffic in the area please advise”

I'm WITH YOU

 

[bimmerphile]

I once heard this exchange near an untowered field during IFR conditions.

Paraphrased some.

Appr Ctrl: Regional carrier cleared for the RNAV approach radar services terminated change to advisory frequency approved
Regional carrier: You cant terminate our radar services, we are IFR
Regional carrier: How are we supposed to stay clear of other traffic we are IMC.
Appr Ctrl: .............
Appr Ctrl: There are no radar targets between you and the field sir.
Regional Carrier: .......but we are on an IFR clearance.
Appr Ctrl: I can't see you on the radar anymore. What would you have me do?
Regional carrier landed uneventfully

had this argument with a 15yr NB CA (former tomcat driver, you know) who said it should be illegal to fly an airliner out of radar coverage or untowered fields because he didn’t know if there were vfr targets going into Queretaro at night in IMC.

(i still work at the same airline and now am in radar coverage maybe 5% of the day)