Orlando tower aborts Southwest takeoff roll on taxiway.

[BEEF SUPREME]

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Towards the end they had a "runway change checklist" that I thought was a bit of overkill. And of course, it was "recommended" to stop your taxi to go over it. Didn't work out well at ORD one night while I was in the jumpseat. There aren't many places there where ground can have you stop, apparently.

If you don’t want something to be written into a procedure, stop screwing same up.

Note: I also hate the “one person •s their pants and then we wear diapers” thing too, but

 

[Minuteman]

But has Secretary Road Rules weighed-in on the matter yet?

 

[scooter2525]

at my shop FOs are required to say "runway XX verified".

For learning;

CAPTAIN: When cleared onto the runway, visually identify the intended takeoff runway. Call "RUNWAY XX VERIFIED." Align aircraft with runway.

FIRST OFFICER: Upon achieving runway alignment, check ND for proper heading and alignment with the runway symbol. If properly aligned with the assigned runway, call "RUNWAY XX VERIFIED."

 

[Autothrust Blue]

blah blah both pilots verify both pilots verbalize please actually do it and other such things

 

[ahw01]

blah blah both pilots verify both pilots verbalize please actually do it and other such things

Have we got clearance Clarence?

 

[Pilot Fighter]

Tower: Please provide two-factor identification code currently displayed to your left.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Have we got clearance Clarence?

Tower radio clearance, over.

That's Clarence Oveur!

What?

Who?

 

[scooter2525]

blah blah both pilots verify both pilots verbalize please actually do it and other such things

I've yet to hear a captain miss their portion, and I don't think I've missed mine. Seems to work well, last long time.

 

[🦈💜]

Honestly, though, I have to ask: Does that LOOK like a runway???

 

[CFI A&P]

Reminds me of when 12/30 was being renovated and W became the temporary runway at OAK.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

For learning;

CAPTAIN: When cleared onto the runway, visually identify the intended takeoff runway. Call "RUNWAY XX VERIFIED." Align aircraft with runway.

FIRST OFFICER: Upon achieving runway alignment, check ND for proper heading and alignment with the runway symbol. If properly aligned with the assigned runway, call "RUNWAY XX VERIFIED."

I think it would be cool if both had to loudly shout the runway number in unison.

 

[ChasenSFO]

blah blah both pilots verify both pilots verbalize please actually do it and other such things

Yes, a lot of wrong surface takeoff accidents have the crew going through the proper verbal motions then crashing anyway. Confirmation bias, complacency, ect. is always looming.

 

[ppragman]

I think it would be cool if both had to loudly shout the runway number in unison.

I propose a new system.

We use computer vision. If the power levers are advanced to takeoff power and there's a yellow line in the middle of the surface you're departing an electric shock is applied through the seat to the captains genitals. Any time you advance the thrust levers above idle a similarly located Tens Unit frantically buzzes. While some crewmembers may like this, it will at least get them thinking.

Care will have to be exercised on contaminated surfaces, but any time the power comes up over half throw or so a tingling sensation applied in the vicinity of your short and curlies would get you to think about what you're doing and to slow the • down.

 

[ASpilot2be]

I propose a new system.

We use computer vision. If the power levers are advanced to takeoff power and there's a yellow line in the middle of the surface you're departing an electric shock is applied through the seat to the captains genitals. Any time you advance the thrust levers above idle a similarly located Tens Unit frantically buzzes. While some crewmembers may like this, it will at least get them thinking.

Care will have to be exercised on contaminated surfaces, but any time the power comes up over half throw or so a tingling sensation applied in the vicinity of your short and curlies would get you to think about what you're doing and to slow the • down.

The issue I could see is sometimes the taxi lines extend aways on the runway. Especially if you do an intersection takeoff.

 

[ChasenSFO]

Reminds me of when 12/30 was being renovated and W became the temporary runway at OAK.

SFO also used taxiway C as runway 29 for GA traffic and EMB-120s for a while in the 2000s. Some of the markings might still be faintly visible, easy to find them going back in Google Earth or other historical imagery. It was a trip to watch guys rolling on 28R sandwiched by a parallel landing all in that small space.

 

[ERfly]

But has Secretary Road Rules weighed-in on the matter yet?

We expect him to stop being polite and start getting real on Monday.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

Yes, a lot of wrong surface takeoff accidents have the crew going through the proper verbal motions then crashing anyway. Confirmation bias, complacency, ect. is always looming.

Yeah, when checklist turns into a song.

 

[ERfly]

I think it would be cool if both had to loudly shout the runway number in unison.

That's our 500' call now.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I propose a new system.

We use computer vision. If the power levers are advanced to takeoff power and there's a yellow line in the middle of the surface you're departing an electric shock is applied through the seat to the captains genitals. Any time you advance the thrust levers above idle a similarly located Tens Unit frantically buzzes. While some crewmembers may like this, it will at least get them thinking.

Care will have to be exercised on contaminated surfaces, but any time the power comes up over half throw or so a tingling sensation applied in the vicinity of your short and curlies would get you to think about what you're doing and to slow the • down.

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