Challenger Truckee

BigZ said:
Trying to remember, flew in there a few times IFR in a jet and ASEL. Honestly can't remember anything like what you describe.
Wx sucks - ils 16 circle 34. Decent - cleared visual 34. Maybe things have changed
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CFI A&P said:
Hey, I’m just a meat servo that does what I’m told and all I know is that every time I fly to Chicago Executive on an IFR flight plan, I will not get a landing clearance for runway 34 until I cancel IFR.
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Pretty sure it can go either way, depending on what KORD’s doing. Sometimes get the circle, sometimes have to cancel to use 34.
 
scooter2525 said:
MVA
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1000’ above the tallest obstacle within I think it’s 5 miles (maybe 3?). Although some spots are blanket, like we have a stretch of 2500’ MVA west of MMU/CDW even though there’s no obstacles there yet. The FAA gave Verizon a blank check to build cell towers within that area.
 
NovemberEcho said:
of course. You’re still IFR. UNLESS you say you have preceding traffic in sight, and are told to follow that traffic. Then sep is up to you.
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Lemme rephrase
Maintain visual separation is used here on occasion, but not often.
But the separation is perceivably increased when haze makes them switch from handing out visuals to ILSs. Why/how/huh/change in sep? How much? I think down here on visual it's down to 2.5nm before someone gets sent around, but that's a guess.
 
BigZ said:
Lemme rephrase
Maintain visual separation is used here on occasion, but not often.
But the separation is perceivably increased when haze makes them switch from handing out visuals to ILSs. Why/how/huh/change in sep? How much? I think down here on visual it's down to 2.5nm before someone gets sent around, but that's a guess.
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reduced runway sep is 2.5 but doesn’t matter the kind of approach. If the vis is bad the problem may be tower can’t get you in sight to provide tower applied visual sep which lets you get even less than 2.5 so they’re protecting from a go around.
 
SteveC said:
Pretty sure it can go either way, depending on what KORD’s doing. Sometimes get the circle, sometimes have to cancel to use 34.
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I thought about that some after I wrote that. Lately "the Wisconsin runway" 27R/9L that's the closest to PWK is heavily utilized. West flow will have a bunch of traffic on "downwind" just south of PWK somewhere between 7000-4000
 
dustoff17 said:
You can see the reflection in the windshield of the vehicle to the far right. Freeze frame the video as the plane passes over….it looks like it’s in a “knife-edge” maneuver.

RIP……
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I saw that too.

Edit: so did a bunch of other folks... I'm late to the thread...
 
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NovemberEcho said:
reduced runway sep is 2.5 but doesn’t matter the kind of approach. If the vis is bad the problem may be tower can’t get you in sight to provide tower applied visual sep which lets you get even less than 2.5 so they’re protecting from a go around.
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Aight, another question
Conga line, conducting visual approaches. Say one crew ain't from around here, can't spot the field, gets cleared for an ILS. Will that somehow affect the required separation for that particular aircraft?
 
BigZ said:
Aight, another question
Conga line, conducting visual approaches. Say one crew ain't from around here, can't spot the field, gets cleared for an ILS. Will that somehow affect the required separation for that particular aircraft?
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nope but it may look like it does because the preceding aircraft on the visual cuts in tighter while you’re being vectored to final. IFR sep is IFR sep irregardless of approach.
 
I got one. 7am landing EWR 4L for the past 4 hours. Let's change to 29 on intial vector off arrival. Can't because lots of rubber dog • in back, so landing 22R with a 9kt tailwind.
Why you gotta do us like that?
 
mikecweb said:
I got one. 7am landing EWR 4L for the past 4 hours. Let's change to 29 on intial vector off arrival. Can't because lots of rubber dog • in back, so landing 22R with a 9kt tailwind.
Why you gotta do us like that?
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If you’re talking recently, it’s because with 22L/4R closed using 29 means we don’t have to do single runway ops. When we can’t use 29 we have to provide 5-7 mile gaps on the final so tower can get departures out. Runway 29 is closed overnight for constructions and opens again around 645-7am local.

Personally, there’s been a lot of times I think we should be doing RNAV X 29 and 4L instead of Stadium Visual 29 and 22R, but that means tower has to do a little more work so they won’t do it unless the winds are really bad.
 
NovemberEcho said:
If you’re talking recently, it’s because with 22L/4R closed using 29 means we don’t have to do single runway ops. When we can’t use 29 we have to provide 5-7 mile gaps on the final so tower can get departures out. Runway 29 is closed overnight for constructions and opens again around 645-7am local.

Personally, there’s been a lot of times I think we should be doing RNAV X 29 and 4L instead of Stadium Visual 29 and 22R, but that means tower has to do a little more work so they won’t do it unless the winds are really bad.
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I'm 90% giving you crap but just as long as TOWER doesn't have to work harder...
 
SteveC said:
Beat me by a minute.

I’ve never seen it happen, but my presumption is if you can’t cancel nor land on 16 the next move will be flying the missed.
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I do not desire to fly that missed approach. I don't have the chart in front of me, but if it's anything like the quick turn and level off like departing out of there...then it's a pain in the butt.
 
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