"It's just a sign of the times,
Going forward in reverse"
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"It's just a sign of the times,
Going forward in reverse"
New class started on January 27th and yes they are furloughed.
They have already been furloughed?
No involuntary furloughs at Alaska.
Great job Alaska!Yep...great day for a lot of us. Enough people took all the different leaves, voluntary furloughs, and job shares to save everyone (including me at the bottom.)
31 warn letters went out to the 88 dispatchers, and yesterday before everyone bid for the leave options, the companies number to furlough was 18, but the group collectively saved everyone without a pay cut to boot.
Yep...great day for a lot of us. Enough people took all the different leaves, voluntary furloughs, and job shares to save everyone (including me at the bottom.)
31 warn letters went out to the 88 dispatchers, and yesterday before everyone bid for the leave options, the companies number to furlough was 18, but the group collectively saved everyone without a pay cut to boot.
The big picture question remains why does Alaska, Delta, Southwest, Jetblue, Spirit all want or need payroll protection money after they have all found ways to keep from furloughing most if not all their employees? It is essentially a form of defrauding the taxpayers for them to be claiming publicly that they need the money to keep everyone employed when they have all done enough to keep most if not everyone employed.
Allegiant avoiding dispatch furloughs with voluntary short term leave.
Voluntary leaves of absence, job sharing, and whatever other initiatives have been taken, do not solve the basic problem of a drastic and unforeseen loss of revenue. If passenger traffic does not rebound, there WILL be layoffs, company downsizing, and closures. The loss of revenue was caused, at least in part, by the ongoing draconian, and ever-tightening, restrictions imposed by Big Government, aided and abetted by the Big Media's constant drumbeat of Chinavirus fear-mongering and doom-saying. So while I agree there is taxpayer defrauding going on, I'm not convinced it's being done by the airlines.The big picture question remains why does Alaska, Delta, Southwest, Jetblue, Spirit all want or need payroll protection money after they have all found ways to keep from furloughing most if not all their employees? It is essentially a form of defrauding the taxpayers for them to be claiming publicly that they need the money to keep everyone employed when they have all done enough to keep most if not everyone employed.
Voluntary leaves of absence, job sharing, and whatever other initiatives have been taken, do not solve the basic problem of a drastic and unforeseen loss of revenue. If passenger traffic does not rebound, there WILL be layoffs, company downsizing, and closures. The loss of revenue was caused, at least in part, by the ongoing draconian, and ever-tightening, restrictions imposed by Big Government, aided and abetted by the Big Media's constant drumbeat of Chinavirus fear-mongering and doom-saying. So while I agree there is taxpayer defrauding going on, I'm not convinced it's being done by the airlines.
The big Picture question is why AA and UA are the only major airlines furloughing. Don't knock DL SW B6 AS for finding ways to save Money their employees. AA and UA had the opportunity to take paycuts and save their fellow dispatchers but choose not to.The big picture question remains why does Alaska, Delta, Southwest, Jetblue, Spirit all want or need payroll protection money after they have all found ways to keep from furloughing most if not all their employees? It is essentially a form of defrauding the taxpayers for them to be claiming publicly that they need the money to keep everyone employed when they have all done enough to keep most if not everyone employed.
The big Picture question is why AA and UA are the only major airlines furloughing. Don't knock DL SW B6 AS for finding ways to save Money their employees. AA and UA had the opportunity to take paycuts and save their fellow dispatchers but choose not to.
I wouldn't put everything on the remaining dispatchers at AA/UA. In order to save everyone from being furloughed at UA, it would have required everyone to take a 45% pay cut. Obviously that's kind of an extreme amount to expect people to volunteer for. Certainly, if there had been more participation in volunteering for reduced hours, more positions could have been saved, but in my opinion a bigger question is why those particular companies felt the need to furlough so many people, and why they didn't offer a more generous early out/retirement plan.
Can’t speak to Spirit (or really to B6, either) but the ones that got enough leaves, retirements, concessions, etc are also the ones that actually seem to give a damn about their employees beyond their productivity on a spreadsheet. For me this has been the perfect example of why you should care about your employees, they’re going to be more willing to work with you when times are bad, compared to bitter, abused employees.
AA’s vloa options shortest length was over a year.The big Picture question is why AA and UA are the only major airlines furloughing. Don't knock DL SW B6 AS for finding ways to save Money their employees. AA and UA had the opportunity to take paycuts and save their fellow dispatchers but choose not to.
I have heard some at AA are already salivating about all the OT that starts Oct 2nd...sad.AA’s vloa options shortest length was over a year.
Had to be at step 6 before any partial pay came into play, and it was hilariously low.
It’s been pretty grim.
Oct 1st*I have heard some at AA are already salivating about all the OT that starts Oct 2nd...sad.