killbilly
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Only 1100 more hours to go......sigh![]()
I feel your pain. I surely do.
Only 1100 more hours to go......sigh![]()
Yup, we get them once a month. XJT, GoJet, SKY, Envoy, and Trans states...typically for the new hire classes.
Most people here have been closing the Envoy program...from what I've seen. I'm glad there is no strings attached to Skywest, should another opportunity arise. I'd rather have seniority than travel benefits...I can barely get any time off anyways lol.
@JustinS thanks man! How long did you sit reserve at COS or DEN...what can be expected (at least right now)?
Yup, we get them once a month. XJT, GoJet, SKY, Envoy, and Trans states...typically for the new hire classes.
Most people here have been closing the Envoy program...from what I've seen. I'm glad there is no strings attached to Skywest, should another opportunity arise. I'd rather have seniority than travel benefits...I can barely get any time off anyways lol.
@JustinS thanks man! How long did you sit reserve at COS or DEN...what can be expected (at least right now)?
They were saying 5 year flow when I heard them. I just didn't wanna lock down to one airline without knowing how the industry will be when I get my times.Envoy seems good on paper, but I don't know if that 2.5 yr upgrade and six year flow is reality, or marketing. I've got 1.5-2 yrs. I'll continue to watch.
I don't like it for no other reason than our planes should be flown by our pilots. Period.
Up to interpretation in that regard. If they're not on the seniority list do you really consider them our pilots? Not to get all "ey took er jooobs!", but I see NO reason for anyone other than active pilots on the list to be doing any of our flying. Plus, what's the limit, or the advantage? Will these guys be paid less than us to do it? Frustrating seeing the idea being thrown around when there are countless reserves doing NOTHING.My understanding is it is "our pilots"....they're just those who've aged out but are still interested in working/flying.
My understanding is it is "our pilots"....they're just those who've aged out but are still interested in working/flying.
I know if SouthernJets had 67 year olds positioning aircraft I'd be pissed because thats less work for the seniority list pilots.
I know if SouthernJets had 67 year olds positioning aircraft I'd be pissed because thats less work for the seniority list pilots.
THIS. There is ZERO benefit to the pilot group.
What are the benefits?Not advocating for or against it, just saying this statement might not be entirely true.
Enjoy this while it lasts.
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Frustrating seeing the idea being thrown around when there are countless reserves doing NOTHING.
What are the benefits?
True. Sounds like it's night and day.This is absolutely true on the 175. Then you look at some CRJ bases with zero reserves and multiple unfilled open time trips.
Yep.THIS. There is ZERO benefit to the pilot group. And of the argument that reserves don't like repos and paint shop flights, I find that hard to believe... Might not be the best money maker, but I volunteered reserve a few weeks ago and ended up being called out for an MX rescue mission involving some repos and flying some mechanics around. It was just the kind of trip I had hoped they would give me on one of the reserve days. I personally enjoyed it... It was a nice break from the norm of flying revenue flights, and made for fun stories and meeting new people.
All allowing non seniority list pilots to fly some flights does is alleviate the company's need for more pilots... Which I think is more of a pay induced shortage than a real pilot shortage...
Career revision jet!We get lucky every once in a while. 105:04 credit. Block 87:36 (and that's not counting if I underblock any of my next 7 flights).
Still way too much work. Then again, I'm on the understaffed jet, not the heavy.
I know if SouthernJets had 67 year olds positioning aircraft I'd be pissed because thats less work for the seniority list pilots.
I can understand that feeling...until you're one of those 67 year olds that still has a lot of flying left in you.
Then they should buy or rent a Cessna, not take work away from me and my coworkers.I can understand that feeling...until you're one of those 67 year olds that still has a lot of flying left in you.