Skywest Questions

GypsyPilot said:
I honestly think that's why some people become airline pilots...
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ClarkGriswold said:
Yup. O and he's special since he got hired at Continental during the "glory" days. Makes him wearing the ALPA lanyard that much better.
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skyw82 said:
Think about it for a second that he's retired and still wears his uniform daily.
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GypsyPilot said:
I honestly think that's why some people become airline pilots...
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Is he maybe supposed to do that? Does UVU ask him to?

I have no idea at all, I'm just curious.
 
Flyboy57 said:
Take away a job from you? Weren't they there before you??

And who, exactly, got "screwed over" by the age 65 rule? Didn't it extend your flying career by five years, too?
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I'd say anyone not at least in the left seat of a regional or in either seat at mainline. An extra half decade at crap wages and quality of life is/was a very real consequence for many of us.

I'm not saying anyone is entitled to any seat but it becomes difficult to fathom those "extra" five years that may or may not happen in two or three decades when you're having to minimize your days off just to try and afford the basics every month.

Alas, I can see this becoming a thread hijack of sorts so perhaps a discussion for a new topic.

Autothrust Blue said:
As much as I'll wear it (to the T) at work, the first thing that happens upon arrival at the hotel/at home is its rapid jettison.
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This. I wear my uniform with pride when I'm at work. When I'm done? Nope nope nope.



I love my job but there is so much more to life than flying airliners around. I hope I'm smart enough with money that I can retire early and travel with my wife and surf hidden spots around the globe and sip good scotch and drive fast cars and spoil grandchildren someday.
 
etflies said:
I'd say anyone not at least in the left seat of a regional or in either seat at mainline. An extra half decade at crap wages and quality of life is/was a very real consequence for many of us.

I'm not saying anyone is entitled to any seat but it becomes difficult to fathom those "extra" five years that may or may not happen in two or three decades when you're having to minimize your days off just to try and afford the basics every month.

Alas, I can see this becoming a thread hijack of sorts so perhaps a discussion for a new topic.
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Wherever you are, you should be prepared to hang your hat there for a while should the music stop dramatically.

That means that some of us, through a curious combination of circumstances both within and outside of our control, may well retire from a regional airline.

Guess that also means that we should probably be spending our time while we're here making it a better place to work, right?
 
skyw82 said:
Think about it for a second that he's retired and still wears his uniform daily.
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Her name is Lola, she was a showgirl
But that was 30 years ago, when they used to have a show
Now it's a disco, but not for Lola
Still in the dress she used to wear, faded feathers in her hair
She sits there so refined, and drinks herself half-blind
She lost her youth and she lost her Tony
Now she's lost her mind!
At the Copa… Copa CabanaAaaaaaaa!

:)
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Wherever you are, you should be prepared to hang your hat there for a while should the music stop dramatically.

That means that some of us, through a curious combination of circumstances both within and outside of our control, may well retire from a regional airline.

Guess that also means that we should probably be spending our time while we're here making it a better place to work, right?
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Agreed, 100%. Kudos to you for doing exactly that, my friend.
 
Flyboy57 said:
I can understand that feeling...until you're one of those 67 year olds that still has a lot of flying left in you.
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This makes zero sense in a professional position with a contract. You're not taking away the guys certificate. He can fly all he wants in the 135/91 world. The law pushes you out at 65, you shouldn't expect to circumvent that just because you have flying left in you.

I think its crazy that some of our pilots think its fine to let pilots not on our seniority list fly these planes. I don't want to do paint shop flying, but I know of reserve guys who do, just becuse they want to fly. It takes money away from those on property.
 
Mark815 said:
This makes zero sense in a professional position with a contract. You're not taking away the guys certificate. He can fly all he wants in the 135/91 world. The law pushes you out at 65, you shouldn't expect to circumvent that just because you have flying left in you.

I think its crazy that some of our pilots think its fine to let pilots not on our seniority list fly these planes. I don't want to do paint shop flying, but I know of reserve guys who do, just becuse they want to fly. It takes money away from those on property.
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It is not at all okay with me.

My "ask" price for that is staggering, and will probably never be met.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
It is not at all okay with me.

My "ask" price for that is staggering, and will probably never be met.
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It's good to know there are plenty of people against this. I just hate the non-chalant eye rolling that some people give as an answer to our seniority being overlooked. I'm currently fighting my own battle, along with others. Trying to get my transition bid awarded for the 175. New hires off the street are being awarded the plane/base that those of us on property want.
 
Mark815 said:
It's good to know there are plenty of people against this. I just hate the non-chalant eye rolling that some people give as an answer to our seniority being overlooked. I'm currently fighting my own battle, along with others. Trying to get my transition bid awarded for the 175. New hires off the street are being awarded the plane/base that those of us on property want.
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We might've spoken on the phone at some point then. Sorry about that. I know the minor bump in pay probably doesn't make you feel any better. I don't think it's a hugely consistent way of doing business either.

One of the problems that we have is that which is written versus that which is implemented. What's written is, in many cases, inadequate, and the practices used to implement the inadequate policy are also not well-documented. I'm reminded of being asked "what program do you use to do vacancies?"

We don't have a program, we have a person; this fact notwithstanding she is fantastically accurate and very good at it.

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Autothrust Blue said:
We might've spoken on the phone at some point then. Sorry about that. I know the minor bump in pay probably doesn't make you feel any better. I don't think it's a hugely consistent way of doing business either.

One of the problems that we have is that which is written versus that which is implemented. What's written is, in many cases, inadequate, and the practices used to implement the inadequate policy are also not well-documented. I'm reminded of being asked "what program do you use to do vacancies?"

We don't have a program, we have a person; this fact notwithstanding she is fantastically accurate and very good at it.

(etc.)
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And there's no binding contract to follow when it comes to filling vacancies.
 
Derg said:
Why didn't I get weekends off, man. I'll just call in sick because PBS sucks.


:sarcasm:
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Because you either do not understand how to ask PBS for it, or the fact that you've worked here for (however long) doesn't mean that your in-category seniority will actually hold aforementioned days off.

It is irrelevant if you've worked here for 11 years, if a guy has worked here for 11 years and a day, he's going first with PBS.
 
Mark815 said:
It's good to know there are plenty of people against this. I just hate the non-chalant eye rolling that some people give as an answer to our seniority being overlooked. I'm currently fighting my own battle, along with others. Trying to get my transition bid awarded for the 175. New hires off the street are being awarded the plane/base that those of us on property want.
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I have a few buddies that are trying to come over and cant because of the fact that ORD is so amazingly overstaffed. Hopefully LAX opening and the rest of the new planes coming on line will help alleviate some of those transition problems. Just if you are above me seniority wise.... Feel feel to not stay at ORD haha
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Because you either do not understand how to ask PBS for it, or the fact that you've worked here for (however long) doesn't mean that your in-category seniority will actually hold aforementioned days off.

It is irrelevant if you've worked here for 11 years, if a guy has worked here for 11 years and a day, he's going first with PBS.
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And why does PBS only load up on the really good programs when they're asking for money?
 
ClarkGriswold said:
There's life outside of aviation. Scary I know. They retired and are no longer on the list. In actuality the jr guy is higher up to totem pole since he still is infact on the list for that specific operation/airplane. Don't be like this guy and hang around thinking you're someone


Almost forgot, don't retire from a regional too.
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Gee...a Naval aviator, then airline pilot who now shares his love for aviation with aspiring young aviators. Why wouldn't someone want to be like him? I'm confused.
 
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