Seggy
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There is nothing preventing your company from giving screening tests to make sure the potential applicant is one who will strive to be well above the min standard.
No more Brasilias at SkyWest...
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There is nothing preventing your company from giving screening tests to make sure the potential applicant is one who will strive to be well above the min standard.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Seniority should always carry benefits. Loyalty is rewarded. Stick with a company, you get more pay, better schedules, etc. You helped build that company, while the guy who just started, regardless of "merit," has so far contributed nothing.
You either meet the standard for continued employment or you don't. If you don't, you get fired. If you do, then seniority dictates the rest.
PhilosopherPilot
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Read my post again. Slowly.
There's a wide gulf between min standard to stay employed and the best employee on the list. Surely you don't think that the two are the same. If you do, you've been hitting the union fruity drink.
PhilosopherPilot
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We can't have that!
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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No thanks. I want to beat my head against a brick wall after reading them the first time.
PhilosopherPilot
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Fine. Just ignore the part of my post that makes you have to think or revise your position. Typical.
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milleR
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As a business owner do you hold the same opinion that longevity > merit?
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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milleR said:
Yes. My employees receive pay raises and increased vacation based upon years of service.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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PhilosopherPilot said:
Nothing in yours posts makes me do any such thing.
T/O w/FSII
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ATN reminds me of Patrick Bateman. That is all I have to contribute to this thread.
Seggy
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milleR
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Fair enough. Do you use longevity as the primary metric in elevation to a position of increased responsibility?
milleR
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They have an APU, an AutoPilot, a FA, and a Bathroom. Not much to say about that!
And a FO.
PhilosopherPilot
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Quite the opposite. This place is all sunshine and rainbows compared to every other pilot board.
PhilosopherPilot
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He's unlikely to answer your question because that will force him to lie to be in line with his other posts, or force him to accept that longevity and merit aren't the same thing.
You know what's kind of sad is that when I flew for the commuters (no one said "regional" back then because well, at the end of the day, you'd get your ass kicked for that), the Brasilia was the shizzle of the commuter world.
It was an industry of Metroliners, Beech 1900's (D's if you were lucky), Jetstreams, etc. Hell, my senior year of college, I hopped on a commuter to PHX from PRC which was operated with a Chieftain.
The Brasilia, you could stand up in and take a pee. Taking a pee, at the time, on a commuter flight was a luxury because not many aircraft had a flight attendant, many didn't have bathrooms and the idea of spending more than 90 minutes on anything "commuter" was unimaginable.
Naturally times change.
Now the commuters became "regionals" and gone, for the most part, are the Brasilias, the ATR's, the Saabs and most other aircraft that a lot of us cut our teeth on.
I feel very nostalgic seeing it going, largely because I still remember looking across the aisle on a Skywest Brasilia flying from SFO to VIS and my dad telling me how proud he was that I chose aviation as a career, even though there wasn't jack squat going on in in the early 1990's and realizing that if I was going to make it happen, I'm going to have to be a little more positive, run a little faster and make better connections than the next guy when I got out of college. Hell, @Autothrust Blue probably flew the plane where I had that epiphany.
So for me, even though I didn't fly the airplane, it holds a special place in my heart on a number of levels.
It was an industry of Metroliners, Beech 1900's (D's if you were lucky), Jetstreams, etc. Hell, my senior year of college, I hopped on a commuter to PHX from PRC which was operated with a Chieftain.
The Brasilia, you could stand up in and take a pee. Taking a pee, at the time, on a commuter flight was a luxury because not many aircraft had a flight attendant, many didn't have bathrooms and the idea of spending more than 90 minutes on anything "commuter" was unimaginable.
Naturally times change.
Now the commuters became "regionals" and gone, for the most part, are the Brasilias, the ATR's, the Saabs and most other aircraft that a lot of us cut our teeth on.
I feel very nostalgic seeing it going, largely because I still remember looking across the aisle on a Skywest Brasilia flying from SFO to VIS and my dad telling me how proud he was that I chose aviation as a career, even though there wasn't jack squat going on in in the early 1990's and realizing that if I was going to make it happen, I'm going to have to be a little more positive, run a little faster and make better connections than the next guy when I got out of college. Hell, @Autothrust Blue probably flew the plane where I had that epiphany.
So for me, even though I didn't fly the airplane, it holds a special place in my heart on a number of levels.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
When? 7 years from now when the contract comes up. You think I like that?
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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We're still a relatively small company, so honestly, it hasn't come up yet. There aren't any supervisory roles for people to advance into yet. That may change next year, at which point the opportunity will be made available in longevity order. Of course, just like upgrading at an airline, training and evaluation are a part of advancement, so if you can't cut it when you're given the opportunity, then you're back to where you started.