Youtuber Fatal Crash

NovemberEcho said:
Ok, so so far I’m going to have Rhea hand your FO a little hula girl to put on the instrument panel, then have her tell you all about her imaginary pony and their adventures while you’re trying to do your pre-departure checklist. I’ll give the jumpsewter a go-pro and ask if he can get some sick footage of your landing for me. Then just before you line up on centerline for departure I’m going to use the lavatory.
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Yup! That'd to it!
 
Another video, CFI playing with his phone with outdated weather, the student is literally +/- 400 feet in one video. Another video, she pitched up abruptly to catch the glideslope as the speed bleeds off.

Good grief was it time for Frasca and some basic instrument work.

When basic aircraft control is an issue you got no business flying IFR.
 
I think we probably all initially yanked and banked flying IFR, like we did VFR, and it took time to figure out pitch and power, attitude flying etc with IFR. But that was AFTER a really good foundation in hand flying, scan, and system understanding. I hate to kick her while she is down but she didn't display any of that...
 
derg said:
Maybe I'm old school but if my copilot pulled out a stuffed animal and plopped it on top of the panel I'd probably stop doing what I was doing and just glare.
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Orly?

Captain Momo laughs at you, boomer!
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And in another video, her cfi is basically working the radios and pushing buttons and muttering things.

And she even admits it during the ending of the video. I'd like to meet her CFI and whip his ass because that's his professional responsibility to know.
 
derg said:
And in another video, her cfi is basically working the radios and pushing buttons and muttering things.

And she even admits it during the ending of the video. I'd like to meet her CFI and whip his ass because that's his professional responsibility to know.
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He’s at a regional now. :aghast:
 
Do we actually have any clue as to why she crashed yet? All this trashing of an inattentive instructor has been fun but if this was structural or flight control failure or a fire or incapacitation in some way its going to look pretty stupid.
 
trafficinsight said:
Do we actually have any clue as to why she crashed yet? All this trashing of an inattentive instructor has been fun but if this was structural or flight control failure or a fire or incapacitation in some way its going to look pretty stupid.
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Top speculation was autopilot malfunction as had happened in a few other videos and that she was actually on her way to drop the plane off to get the ap fixed. The ground track stays on course while her altitude fluctuates wildly.
 
No radio distress call. No reports of parts missing or the aircraft smoking before impact. What we do have is a metric crapload of evidence showing she couldn't really fly that airplane VMC or IMC without being completely behind the airplane even with a CFI doing half the work. The evidence is pointing to her not knowing how to fly that airplane and it killed her.
 
Inverted said:
No radio distress call. No reports of parts missing or the aircraft smoking before impact. What we do have is a metric crapload of evidence showing she couldn't really fly that airplane VMC or IMC without being completely behind the airplane even with a CFI doing half the work. The evidence is pointing to her not knowing how to fly that airplane and it killed her.
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I’m seeing a negligent CFI that made the pilot into what she was.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
With apologies for your wasted time, but here's a palate cleanser—I'll watch these guys drive their 340 around any day, an exception to "I hate aviation YouTube:"
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PPAA - was a core principle that we taught them in Vero in Arrows and Seminoles. Was pretty crazy to see it in action.
 
NovemberEcho said:
Top speculation was autopilot malfunction as had happened in a few other videos and that she was actually on her way to drop the plane off to get the ap fixed. The ground track stays on course while her altitude fluctuates wildly.
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There is a pretty good case to be made based on her previous videos that the autopilot worked, the operator just did not know how to use it properly. There is video of her commanding the autopilot to climb without adding power and watching while the speed decays to near stall.
 
greg1016 said:
There is a pretty good case to be made based on her previous videos that the autopilot worked, the operator just did not know how to use it properly. There is video of her commanding the autopilot to climb without adding power and watching while the speed decays to near stall.
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That is certainly a possibility as well
 
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