You consider that talking down? Guess I can't please everyone. 777, hopefully
you realize I'm not trying to talk down to you - sorry if it came off that way.
As far as regarding experience levels - experience level in what? If it's regarding just flying professionally, or flying for a 121 operation; fine you got me there. If it's regarding collective bargaining agreements, negotiations of such, or any other topics related to trade unionism then I'm afraid you don't know much about my involvement in unions that do not start with Airline Pilot.
While I'm no saint for CBA or pattern negotiation, it doesn't take 20 years of working under a contract to realize that meeting with a company prior to a contract's amendable date is beyond ridiculous - unless the ball is in our court (which it is not regarding PBS), especially considering the subject (PBS) and the potential consequences (speeding up the process of sending people to the street).
Do we want to take it on the chin by giving into our company's goals of bringing PBS on property, circumventing the natural cycle of collective bargaining? Leaving our pilot group with no bargaining chip to utilize to get something
we want from the company during our next contract negotiations? Why the rush essentially? Sure, the Association agreed to established a PWG to study PBS. But they made no promise to actually coming to a conclusion on it prior to an amendable date, much less instituting the software prior to such an amendable date.
I wouldn't really mind getting an answer to these two questions from anyone who thinks it'd be wise to bring PBS on property prior to our amendable date.
I personally don't care much if PBS is brought onto our property, or the pros or cons. I'm more pissed off and am losing more confidence in our local association leadership by recent events regarding ready reserve assignments, and now this? My patience is extremely thin right now for many reasons, and for our local association leaders to even show a hint that they are willing to bring PBS on property prior to an amendable date is a deal breaker for me.
I could be convinced by the Association regarding PBS on a number of situations, but none of which include an activation of a PBS system
prior to our amendable date. Hopefully that emphasizes my point that I have no issues with meeting with the company prior to an amendable date, as that would clearly help speed the process up - hopefully avoiding another 5.5 year battle.
If we're willing to discuss PBS prior to our amendable date, the company should be willing to discuss compensation (or another appropriate section of our CBA). Nevertheless, I would emphasize no ratification prior to our amendable date. Any ratification would have to occur after our amendable date - at least if the company wants PBS to go active ASAP, we would also want our golden carrot in place ASAP.
*exhale* :hiya:
Very well. . .right now I of course want no part of it either, I could be swayed the other way one day - or not. But right now, hell no.
