Yank&BankmyRJ145
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:yeahthat: And giant marsh mellows need to run down the streets of NYC!!anic:Hell needs to freeze over.
:yeahthat: And giant marsh mellows need to run down the streets of NYC!!anic:Hell needs to freeze over.
:yeahthat: And giant marsh mellows need to run down the streets of NYC!!anic:
i would have been happy with a 5% pay increase and being able to wear jeans and tennis shoes
How sad. You need to look at the BIG picture my good man.
How sad. You need to look at the BIG picture my good man.
while we butt heads on the ability of trainees to learn and do the job, i'm right there with you in respect to pay and contracts. i cant BELIEVE how many times i've heard an applicant say "well 40k is more than i made at my own job, so i will be happy." YOUR OLD JOB WASN'T ANYTHING LIKE THIS JOB. :banghead:
it's all relative, the pay is ####. what am I gonna do about it? Nothing.
OK as a CPC I'll make 90k at my facility, that isn't #### to live on.
what will it take? You mean besides an act of god?
To them that say "well 40k a year is good" tell me at your old job were you responsible for thousands of lives? commerce? national infrastructure? work swing shifts? have no family life? (am i forgetting anything atltracon?)
IMO, if you can not live off of 90k, you might need to rethink your extracurricular activities or move to a cheaper city/state. Or if you are married tell your wife to get a job.
sounds like a lot of money, it isn't.
I never said it was a lot of money....for someone who is single, it's dam good money....now 90k for what you do as an ATC I can not comment on.....but in general it's dam good money. If you are responsible with your money, 90k can go along ways. On the other hand, if you go out and buy a Corvette ZR1 at $100k, a $350k house, $60k boat, all within your first year as a CPC, than $90k wont get you very far.
with 50% of your take home going to housing, plus bills, plus car payments? if you say so...I live in California where housing is anything but cheap. I have a $1600 mortgage (not including property taxes) a new car and a motorcycle. My wife also has a nice car and a Coach purse addiction. I could easily live on $60k per year. If you think you cannot live on $90k per year, you are doing something wrong, especially with a $2500 jeep.
"it doesn't go very far with a $1500 mortgage"
My point was that if you can live on 60k...how does another 30k not go far? that is an extra 50% every year.
I agree it's not a LOT of money, but it is definitely adequate. And if I can keep 50% of my bring home for saving, food and entertainment I think I am doing pretty good. I have made more than 60k in the past, and a ton went into savings at the time. I think people just really need to learn how to handle their money better.
Also, last I checked I think the Median National income was somewhere around 36k. Do you think every one of those people is starving to death? How could an extra 54k not help you live an adequate lifestyle?
If you say so.
Why do you all continue to try to argue Philip or any of his comments? Haven't you learned by now he won't stop.
Just smile and nod.