UPS A300 down at Birmingham AL

ASAP reports being submitted?

Maybe pencil whipping ones schedule was the wrong context. But adjusting legal deadhead times, and stuff like that, is a normal occurrence. My point to him was stuff like that wasn't just confined to Colgan. It was and sometimes still is going on at other regionals.
 
Maybe pencil whipping ones schedule was the wrong context. But adjusting legal deadhead times, and stuff like that, is a normal occurrence. My point to him was stuff like that wasn't just confined to Colgan. It was and sometimes still is going on at other regionals.
I'm picking up what you're putting down. Sad that is still practice. I live with a lot of junior guys in DTW and cannot believe how bad it has gotten. I feel bad for them everyday they are on call.
 
I'm amazed myself. The Colgan CAs I have flown with have been afraid to write certain things up because the culture was so bad before. We never even had it that bad at Pinnacle. I've had to write things up because these guys are still shell-shocked.

That's not shell-shocked, that's someone who is still trapped in the dbag company man mindset. I was never once question about anything I ever wrote up, nor did I ever hesitate to do it when something needed to be.

Was that nuance of the stick shaker/pusher (won't activate for a tailplane stall) covered in training? Is the Q400 susceptible to a tailplane stall at all?

The nuance of no shaker/pusher for a tail stall may have been mentioned, but not covered/discussed in depth. I don't recall hearing it in initial training. Reason being, Bombardier has claimed from day 1 that the Q is not susceptible to a tail stall. I do recall that being told to me when I went through Q training, which was several months before the crash.
 
Mx records are kept for life and follow the aircraft when it is sold. Pilots have to trust mx and records that all is in order. The pilot typically only sees that previous 7-10 pages of the logbook.
 
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Even the crappiest of apartments wont be doable with 15800 and most likely will be in a shady area. Besides, she's married with a husband. Not exactly the single pilot who can just up and out with roommates.
You can live in a crappy apartment and drive a crappy car on $15,800. The fact that you are married does not make this less true.

Some folks are willing to sacrifice more than others. For most of last year I had a regional FO living in the tack room of my barn for free. It had AC, heat, hot water, and a half bath. He joined a 24 gym in town and that's where he showered. This guy did what it took. Oh, he was married.
 
You can live in a crappy apartment and drive a crappy car on $15,800. The fact that you are married does not make this less true.

Some folks are willing to sacrifice more than others. For most of last year I had a regional FO living in the tack room of my barn for free. It had AC, heat, hot water, and a half bath. He joined a 24 gym in town and that's where he showered. This guy did what it took. Oh, he was married.

And you think that's ok? Your post makes my sick to my freaking stomach.
 
I think the UPS thing will end up being one of those deals that could happen to anyone, all things considered, and I include myself in that assumption. Asiana? Not even close...

Would not be so sure on Asiana, I can think of a few scenarios that would make that statement false.
 
You can live in a crappy apartment and drive a crappy car on $15,800. The fact that you are married does not make this less true.

Some folks are willing to sacrifice more than others. For most of last year I had a regional FO living in the tack room of my barn for free. It had AC, heat, hot water, and a half bath. He joined a 24 gym in town and that's where he showered. This guy did what it took. Oh, he was married.
that's what ranch hands do in New Mexico, not freaking professional pilots
 
You can live in a crappy apartment and drive a crappy car on $15,800. The fact that you are married does not make this less true.

Some folks are willing to sacrifice more than others. For most of last year I had a regional FO living in the tack room of my barn for free. It had AC, heat, hot water, and a half bath. He joined a 24 gym in town and that's where he showered. This guy did what it took. Oh, he was married.


Something is seriously wrong with you.

No one in charge of this much life and property is worth that little. No one.
 
No one in charge of this much life and property is worth that little. No one.

Freaking QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

There's McDonald's workers out there making this kind of money... and a LOT of them are out on the streets striking and protesting right now. All they have to do is flip a ********* burger.
 
Freaking QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

There's McDonald's workers out there making this kind of money... and a LOT of them are out on the streets striking and protesting right now. All they have to do is flip a ********* burger.


But they CAN because they don't deal with the RLA.
 
Something is seriously wrong with you.

No one in charge of this much life and property is worth that little. No one.

What's wrong with me? I think renting a cheap apartment with roommates is better than commuting from the opposite coast. Somebody said that it is impossible to live on $15,800. I wouldn't do it, but plenty of undergrads and grad students do it.

I am not defending airline compensation. I'm not in the housing business and helped somebody out. Other than the limited facilities, my tack room is better than most studio apartments.

Revisit the context. I wouldn't work for $15,800 and I wouldn't commute from the opposite coast for ten times that amount.
 
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