The pilot shortage is over?

[Wardogg]

Spirit Airlines halts new pilot, flight attendant training after difficult quarter, Pratt engine issue

A Spirit Airlines memo said new pilot and flight attendant training would be suspended next month "until further notice."

www.cnbc.com

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

Well, they’re hemorrhaging cash, and are about to down double digit aircraft due to a manufacturing defect. ULCCs are struggling. Legacies are making money.

 

[CFI A&P]

Did you read the article before choosing the thread title?

The first paragraph says that reason isn’t a surplus of pilots, it is weak performance and P&W engine issues.

All the other airlines are still hiring and holding indoc classes. The last sentence even mentions Frontier.

 

[milleR]

Did you read the article before choosing the thread title?

The first paragraph says that reason isn’t a surplus of pilots, it is weak performance and P&W engine issues.

All the other airlines are still hiring and holding indoc classes.

You expect reading comprehension and common sense analysis from a trump supporting defender of January 6th in lieu of a click bait thread title meant to generate angst? Surely you can’t be serious

 

[derg]

The poop really doesn’t hit the fan until next June.

 

[JDean3204]

The poop really doesn’t hit the fan until next June.

As in the slow down or the uptick in retirements? Asking for a friend

 

[MikeD]

Curiously, how about the cargo side? Hiring slowed or slowing, or projected to slow?

 

[trafficinsight]

Curiously, how about the cargo side? Hiring slowed or slowing, or projected to slow?

Purple pulled the plug months ago didn't they?

 

[MikeD]

Purple pulled the plug months ago didn't they?

I’m not certain. I’ve heard rumors here and there, but nothing concrete.

 

[derg]

As in the slow down or the uptick in retirements? Asking for a friend

The tap of available pilots starts getting "interesting" then the feeding frenzy begins. It's basically when DAL/UAL/AMR have some restrictions on the ability to poach from the other carriers and from each other.

 

[///AMG]

I’m not certain. I’ve heard rumors here and there, but nothing concrete.

They did, not sure if it is still the case, but it was a couple months ago. But who knows, sounds like they overhired during COVID and a very unusual and unsustainable demand signal. I personally don't take that as a signal that cargo is in for trouble. I believe UPS has also stopped hiring for the moment, though that could now be old news

 

[Boris Badenov]

Curiously, how about the cargo side? Hiring slowed or slowing, or projected to slow?

Brown hasn't hired for I guess about a year, and I don't see that changing anytime soon, since they just put ~200 senior C/As (and a few F/Os) out to pasture with an expensive early-out. That said, this can change on a dime, and I think they just wanted a bunch of guys who are making "too much" and have five weeks of vacation gone.

 

[Wardogg]

You expect reading comprehension and common sense analysis from a trump supporting defender of January 6th in lieu of a click bait thread title meant to generate angst? Surely you can’t be serious

Who’s a trump supporter?

Also, stop calling me Shirley.

 

[GiantsFan]

The mechanic shortage is going to affect things very soon ...

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

The poop really doesn’t hit the fan until next June.

This is my guess, as well. Since the regionals essentially stopped hiring FOs, they’re screwed. Not many people are in the training/experience pipeline.

 

[phill1174]

Purple pulled the plug months ago didn't they?

They did just like Brown, but apparently they’ve been taking successful candidates from the Purple Runway program and sending them through training. I’m sure they’re not doing it out the kindness of their hearts but I commend them for not screwing someone over who choose that route with FedEx being their #1 choice.

It’s all ironic because I listened to colleagues who would’ve bet money that FedEx was going to furlough and beat their chest about our shop, but we were the ones who paid people to beat feet ASAP (thankfully furloughs are expensive). This doesn’t even include all the slashing the company had been doing in other departments since February. Even after all this we still got folks who believe that anyone who leaves for the pax world will be furloughed, but rocks and glass houses I guess.

 

[phill1174]

The mechanic shortage is going to affect things very soon ...

I’ve been hearing this for years. I guess kind of seeing it too. We let a bunch of mechanics go this year but during peak last year they were run down trying to stuff 10lbs of crap in a 5lb bag.

 

[roundout]

The poop really doesn’t hit the fan until next June.

go on

 

[Autothrust Blue]

The tap of available pilots starts getting "interesting" then the feeding frenzy begins. It's basically when DAL/UAL/AMR have some restrictions on the ability to poach from the other carriers and from each other.

Did everyone tacitly agree to stop? Because that’s kind of crappy of itself.

 

[derg]

Did everyone tacitly agree to stop? Because that’s kind of crappy of itself.

Oh absolutely not. It’s not like airlines are tracking pilots down in another competitors ground school and forcing them to apply.