Certainly that's true. But that's because you A) Come from a reasoned AND sincerely held conviction and B) Are and speak like an adult. Deeply believing that one is owed a career is not reason enough to take that belief seriously. And acting like a 21 year old is for bars, not the internet.
It's funny who thinks they are owed a career. Some people feel like it because they dropped 100k at DCA or ATP, and some feel that way because due to whatever circumstances they flew airplanes at 15 fly-by-night operators and some how didn't get violated or die.
You'll never hear me argue any positive merits of dropping 100k without getting a lambskin, nor going into debt of 100k is a good idea, no matter your career. You spend that money at John Hopkins on a surgical residency, then get your hands torn up in an accident, still lands you in a situation you need to dig out of.
I agree that this works in "attracting" people to a cause or selling something. The thing is, though, that I don't feel like "selling" good sense works, in the end. One must come to it themselves, if they're to stick with it when the chips are down. If I convince some kid that it's "cool" to hold out for a good paying job, well and good when there are good paying jobs to hold out for. But when things get what-passes-for-tough-to-our-generation, is he going to think about how he's setting himself up for a life of wage slavery by even staying in the industry? Or is he going to think about how waiting around doesn't seem so cool anymore and Gulfstream is hiring?
I certainly don't want to "attract" people to the career (more honestly, series of jobs). If people are interested they'll come to it on their own.
The thing is,
you are
selling something, and you want people to take note. Just like everyone else who has cut their teeth in the industry, you have a very definite views on how to be successful. You are, indeed, selling that valid perspective. Now, again, we are all different, so some people like the grit, angst and desire to grind. Some don't.
However, it seems to be the modern style to express ideas. If it's not in your face, and "real", you really can't be selling a heartfelt view point. Anger seems to be selling more than even sex does these days (probably due to the high number of free internet porn sites :beer
, and that method of transferring knowledge seems to be the measure most use to separate the wheat from the chaff, instead of the merits of the argument.
No dispute here whatsoever!
See, you do have some common sense.
See, this is going to sound bad, but I WANT to viciously alienate a certain percentage of the population. There is a type of person who I do NOT want to share a cockpit with no matter how well educated he or she is on the vicissitudes of the industry and the perils of working for less. This sort of person is what is commonly called a "d-bag". I'm sure you all know one. They're the sort of person who, when confronted by disagreement over niggling vocational issues by vastly more experienced coworkers, throw a tantrum and become viciously alienated. Sort of self-selecting, you see!?
Well, just to make you feel bad, the "d-bag" in my mind can easily be discerned by being from Jersey, wearing 2 or more pink polo shirts with popped collars and go by the name of "Chad" or some such nonsense.
However, tantrum type you describe thrive in the airline environment for some reason. Possibly, this is more steeped in our country's sociology than an individual, but that's for debate.
Indeed you can. I think the only place we differ is in defining an ass. Being a connoisseur of fine internet snark from way back, I can appreciate some well thought out button pushing if it A) Has a point and B) Is artfully applied. Naturally, I don't expect anyone else to share my tastes, but I do find it kind of hilarious that the instant reaction of some to being told that they're shortsighted whiney babies is to label the caller a fake. Whatever the case, it is Doug's living room...
There are times where internet snark belongs. There are 2 other aviation forums that purvey that at high levels I can think of off the top of my head. But I agree with your points A and B wholly and with conviction.
The "art", agreeably, is what matters. Any uneducated chump can throw out names and sweeping generalizations.
More interesting is a well crafted use of parody, sarcasm and mockery that clearly is pointed at a certain behavior and dishes out equal parts of insult, lesson, and caution while making the subject confused and unstable.
See, to me it seems like what's really funny/sad is that people get so worked up about the fact that at least some of the cliches about people from various flying backgrounds turn out to be true, at least to some degree. Like any of it really matters. Like figuring out a way to put your peepee on the table is a good use of one's time. It's not that we aren't different, we are. It's that, as you point out, it's in all of our various interests to try to at least act like we're on the same team. I don't see any of the snark being bandied about here suggesting anything but that we should.
That's all I got on that one...
