"The High Cost of Low Experience"

This fascinates me.

You aren't qualified to be an FO but you are qualified to be a single pilot PIC (one life on the ground is worth just as many in the air).


Experience is a poor measure of a man, observation of his abilities is a must.

There are very few "new" ways people keep killing themselves and others in airplanes. We don't spend nearly enough time and energy talking about these errors, since it usually devolves into a primate poo slinging contest.

We don't spend enough energy on training and safety awareness. If you or your workgroup has ever had a "work slow down" using MEL items or operational items, you are part of the problem.

The Colgan accident was no more a problem of inexperience than the NW overflight was. Both had outside factors that if mitigated could have prevented both incidents.

We have a professionalism problem in this industry. It has nothing to do with how you wear your uniform or if you wear a hat or not, or if your shoes are shined to a mirror finnish. The vast majority have given up and no longer view this job as a career and something to be proud of.

We spend countless threads arguing over if someone should go fly for GoJets or what hair style is acceptable, but bring up safety of flight issues that are system wide problems and you are dismissed and shunned.
 
A-300F4-622R said:
What happens when the captain ends up being a wimp and not going. How are you ever going to learn if you would have made it?
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Good thing Captain Richard Buschmann wasn't a wimp.:rolleyes:

P.S.- I mean no disrespect to Captain Buschmann everything I have read about him makes it sound like he was a great pilot and a good person, but he was also a very type A.
 
Gonzo said:
Good thing Captain Richard Buschmann wasn't a wimp.:rolleyes:

P.S.- I mean no disrespect to Captain Buschmann everything I have read about him makes it sound like he was a great pilot and a good person, but he was also a very type A.
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RB was PF correct?

Know we just talked about this, but. . .
 
joliet said:
There is no way Mr. Airbus is the real deal.
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Heh. At the risk (ok, certainty) of being called either a brown-nosing (if you'll pardon the expression) lapdog or an alter ego, what makes you say so? He's a fake because he antagonizes people constantly? I do that and no one has ever called me fake, except maybe when it comes to lies about women and drinking.

I don't really have a dog in the fight (unless UPS hires before cirrhosis claims me), but the dude is either A) A guy who has flown a lot of 135 freight and lived in the Louisville area, B) What he says he is, or C) The most brilliant Walter Mity EVER.

Just curious as to your reasoning. In the end, all Internet Authenticity Contests are doomed to Failure, particularly when the subject of the contest doesn't give a poop what you think, which poop a300 gives no indication of expelling.

ATNPilot's posts irritate the everloving poop out of me (most of the time), but I don't think that makes him a kid in his mom's basement, and however irritated I might be, I try to glean something from them because whether we agree about everything or not, he's gotten where a lot of us would like to be. If you only learn from people who want to be your best internet pal ever, you're going to have a very flat learning curve.
 
However, Todd admits to being human and making mistakes such as the whole Gulfstream thing rather than pretending to be Les Abend's fraternal twin.
 
ChasenSFO said:
However, Todd admits to being human and making mistakes such as the whole Gulfstream thing rather than pretending to be Les Abend's fraternal twin.
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??? One's authenticity is predicated upon whether you find them appropriately humble? The internet is a strange place. Mind you, the guy might be as fake as Paris Hilton's tan, I don't know, but then I could be too, and so could you. File under "people see what they want to see", I guess.
 
Here is my problem with A-300: Here is his first post
A-300F4-622R said:
Hello everyone. This is my first post here on JC. As my screen name suggests, I'm an A-300 pilot for UPS. I'm a refugee from the other popular aviation forums that have devolved into a non-stop immature bash fest.

I hope to contribute and share here, the knowledge and experience that I've gained in over 23 years in the air cargo industry.
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But within a few days he turns out to be Velo 2.0. Good info but bad delivery.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Heh. At the risk (ok, certainty) of being called either a brown-nosing (if you'll pardon the expression) lapdog or an alter ego, what makes you say so? He's a fake because he antagonizes people constantly? I do that and no one has ever called me fake, except maybe when it comes to lies about women and drinking.

I don't really have a dog in the fight (unless UPS hires before cirrhosis claims me), but the dude is either A) A guy who has flown a lot of 135 freight and lived in the Louisville area, B) What he says he is, or C) The most brilliant Walter Mity EVER.

Just curious as to your reasoning. In the end, all Internet Authenticity Contests are doomed to Failure, particularly when the subject of the contest doesn't give a poop what you think, which poop a300 gives no indication of expelling.

ATNPilot's posts irritate the everloving poop out of me (most of the time), but I don't think that makes him a kid in his mom's basement, and however irritated I might be, I try to glean something from them because whether we agree about everything or not, he's gotten where a lot of us would like to be. If you only learn from people who want to be your best internet pal ever, you're going to have a very flat learning curve.
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I think he's the real deal.

However, if you'd be fair, and read his introductory post, you'd see it's not the best impression.

The thing is, and you know this, we don't all have to agree. However, the general consensus is that bashing a group with a broad stroke is best left to the other forums.

Unfortunately, I haven't had the chance to share a beer with you yet. I have, however, been able to share beers with many folks on here.

That's the difference. Just like we have our pretenders, know-nots, wanna-bes and trolls, at the end of the day, most everyone comes here for knowledge and looking for people who are further up in the industry than themselves for mentoring.

When someone comes in who has the "it" job of the year and starts presenting information as A300 has, then it comes across, rightly or wrongly, as I got mine and you'll never get yours.
 
Real or not, from my perspective, he's got an attitude problem.

I walk in awe of no man and the "Look at me, you'll never have what I have" attitude is not conducive to rebuilding the profession after years of getting our asses whipped by the ATA and deregulation.

Hey, I've got a great job too. When I got it, times were different than they are now, but I want to give you tools and guidance so you can do it as well. If you can't take a 51%-plus positive and rational view on the chances of reaching your career goals, go golf or something.

We can bring sexy back to the profession. If I didn't think we could, I certainly wouldn't be blowing 90% of my free time running an internet website.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Real or not, from my perspective, he's got an attitude problem.

I walk in awe of no man and the "Look at me, you'll never have what I have" attitude is not conducive to rebuilding the profession after years of getting our asses whipped by the ATA and deregulation.

Hey, I've got a great job too. When I got it, times were different than they are now, but I want to give you tools and guidance so you can do it as well. If you can't take a 51%-plus positive and rational view on the chances of reaching your career goals, go golf or something.

We can bring sexy back to the profession. If I didn't think we could, I certainly wouldn't be blowing 90% of my free time running an internet website.
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Hear, hear.....

We can and must improve our profession. We may not all agree on the best way to do it, but it's time.

The best way to get started is getting everyone rowing in the same direction. That starts with those that have helping those that want.
 
Doug Taylor said:
We can bring sexy back to the profession. If I didn't think we could, I certainly wouldn't be blowing 90% of my free time running an internet website.
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I completely agree, and forums like these will tremendously help. By educating, networking, and information-gathering, our profession will gain solidarity. JC is one of the only places on the internet where people are working towards a solution and not just complaining.

"I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.” - Wayne Gretzky
 
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