OK folks, here is the explenation of cross control stalls from my CFI...
"OK everyone, here's the skinny on cross-control stalls at Pan-Am. They
are entered just as the Airplane Flying Handbook describes, using the
scenario of an overshoot of base to final. The local FSDO, Orlando, who
are EXTREMELY safety conscious, like the stall to come to a full break
and roll, which comes without much warning, hence one reason for the
demo. It is indeed an insipient spin, but not a full spin. We don't get
there. We recognize what is happening and recover. It is not a spin
demo.
The Cherokee series can insip all day. Will I let it get more than once
around? NO! Also bear in mind, a spin is a ONE G maneuver, the plane
does
not get overly stressed. I've felt as pressed in my seat at 50 and 60
degrees of bank. We smoothly recover before Vle with Va in mind. If you
start at 5500 agl, you're recovered by 4500 agl. It's just that the
first
time one sees this full stall, it's a little unsettling. But the point
is
to demonstrate what can happen to a panicy, knee-jerk reactionary
student
(or one who's not so panicky) as he cheats the turn to final with a
heavy
foot on the rudder (yaw = roll) In addition to the abruptness of
control
input, power left in during the maneuver also has a little to do with
how
surprised you might get. Do you need to show it to all strudents? No.
Should you? Not necessarily. Should a CFI experience it? Yes. Should
you
discuss it? At the very least to everyone. Those of you with hundreds,
if
not thousands, of dual given have probably experienced things you
didn't
think a student could do. One relatively new CFI at Pan Am had a
student
who consistantly was overbanking, and heavy with the rudder at low
altitude. No amount of "wrist slapping" (figurative) could correct this
bad habit. The CFI brought the student to a safe altitude, and basicaly
said, "This is what you're doing and why you're scaring me..." The
student became a believer, makes nice square patterns, and if he's not
quite aligned, he doesn't rush it and goes around if he can't get set
up
with minimal inputs. The FSDO has been VERY pleased with our CFIs
demonstrating the stall to a full break and roll. In fact, on a number
of
occasions, my students have come back from a check ride saying that the
FAA Inspector wished more CFI candidates would demo the stall as we do.
Now, every cross-control stall is not demo'd to full break -- often we
bring it to a buffet and hold it there, on the brink of a roll. If
asked
by an inspector to demo the stall, I have the student ask the inspector
if he has a preference as to how far to bring it -- one likes 360
degrees
of buffet before recovery, one likes recovery at first buffet, most
like
the full break. I've said enough, I'm done. Flying Turkey's CFI."
