montanapilot
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me too!!!
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mnixon
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All who think Matt Nixon needs a frontal labotomy and a g/f say I!!
[/ QUOTE ] Stop by the office and I will show you a picture. You might have seen her here on Friday the 17th between we'll say 11:30 and 2:00? But enough of that. Oh yea, thanks Phil, I appreciate that and you can always be my backup.
As for you Av8tard, I thought you were done. I guess you already had that frontal lobatomy and can't make a decent argument. Shut it already. My offer stands, if you would like to talk in person and try to work out your personal issues with the academy, I might be able to help solve some of your grievances. sp? Complaining on this silly board will do nothing except make your already over-inflated ego bigger.
All who think Matt Nixon needs a frontal labotomy and a g/f say I!!
[/ QUOTE ] Stop by the office and I will show you a picture. You might have seen her here on Friday the 17th between we'll say 11:30 and 2:00? But enough of that. Oh yea, thanks Phil, I appreciate that and you can always be my backup.
As for you Av8tard, I thought you were done. I guess you already had that frontal lobatomy and can't make a decent argument. Shut it already. My offer stands, if you would like to talk in person and try to work out your personal issues with the academy, I might be able to help solve some of your grievances. sp? Complaining on this silly board will do nothing except make your already over-inflated ego bigger.
mnixon
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"I'm one of the DCA guys who says their marketing is silly"
Good, and that's my whole point. So why do YOU think it's silly. I think most professional pilots would look at it and think it's silly. That's why it bothers me. Shouldn't you be proud of image your academy projects to the newbie? Not look at it and say "this is silly".
"Comair Academy (DCA) worked extremely well for me"
Great. I'm glad DCA works and have never doubted that. I also don't think it's the best way to become an airline pilot, but it certainly works. I'm glad DCA graduates guys with 1000 total and some CFI time....that's a good thing.
I attack DCA marketing statements because, as a professional pilot, I find what they say, and the way they say it, repulsive. Same for PanAm. Same for CAPT. However, and I've said this before, if someone comes to jetcareers and reads all the negative posts about DCA, I consider them forwarned. Should they then choose to go to DCA, I wish them the best, cause I did my job.
I mentioned my Amflight friend because he and a guy who is a CFI at DCA were at about the same place a while back, just a PPL. I declared a little race about a year ago between those two...and I think my Amflight friend is winning with a class date for turbine PIC time, and they want him to train other pilots, too. Kid doesn't even have a multi-I.
I don't wish to destroy DCA, it wouldn't bother me if their website disappeared overnight, though.
"Oy! Your losing credibility"
Yeah...I'm not too worried about it....
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Show me one corporation that does not put a spin on their advertising and I will show you a bankrupt company. UPS proclaims that their on time all the time. By 10:00 am right? I've had to wait until noon for an overnight package! FALSE ADVERTISING!!! UPS'S ADVERTISING IN MISLEADING AND SLANDER I DECLARE!!! No do I really believe that UPS is accomplishing its goals and scope of their business 99% of the time, you bet your butt I do. Do I think that they screw up every once in a while? You bet. Does the same go for DCA? You guessed it! Yes they do. Do they provide what they advertise? Without a doubt yes. Do people get starry eyed when they think about airplanes? Yes. Do you see where I am going with this. People tend to see the outer shell of things, and more often than not and only vent on stupid message boards when they have bad experiences. I doubt you'll find a website that talks about how great UPS is other than UPS.com . Now do you think you'll find a website b!tching about how UPS sucks? I bet you could. Kind of reminds of jetcareers. It is all relative here folks. Everybody just tends to focus on the negative, it is part of being human. It is your job as a consumer to investigate the product you will recieve upon payment. If you like it, jump right in, if you don't well go on to the next product.
So Mr. UPS to close my rant, do not think that DCA is unholy because of marketing, because your company does the same thing. Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job! 10:00 guaranteed delivery? Yea right!
"I'm one of the DCA guys who says their marketing is silly"
Good, and that's my whole point. So why do YOU think it's silly. I think most professional pilots would look at it and think it's silly. That's why it bothers me. Shouldn't you be proud of image your academy projects to the newbie? Not look at it and say "this is silly".
"Comair Academy (DCA) worked extremely well for me"
Great. I'm glad DCA works and have never doubted that. I also don't think it's the best way to become an airline pilot, but it certainly works. I'm glad DCA graduates guys with 1000 total and some CFI time....that's a good thing.
I attack DCA marketing statements because, as a professional pilot, I find what they say, and the way they say it, repulsive. Same for PanAm. Same for CAPT. However, and I've said this before, if someone comes to jetcareers and reads all the negative posts about DCA, I consider them forwarned. Should they then choose to go to DCA, I wish them the best, cause I did my job.
I mentioned my Amflight friend because he and a guy who is a CFI at DCA were at about the same place a while back, just a PPL. I declared a little race about a year ago between those two...and I think my Amflight friend is winning with a class date for turbine PIC time, and they want him to train other pilots, too. Kid doesn't even have a multi-I.
I don't wish to destroy DCA, it wouldn't bother me if their website disappeared overnight, though.
"Oy! Your losing credibility"
Yeah...I'm not too worried about it....
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Show me one corporation that does not put a spin on their advertising and I will show you a bankrupt company. UPS proclaims that their on time all the time. By 10:00 am right? I've had to wait until noon for an overnight package! FALSE ADVERTISING!!! UPS'S ADVERTISING IN MISLEADING AND SLANDER I DECLARE!!! No do I really believe that UPS is accomplishing its goals and scope of their business 99% of the time, you bet your butt I do. Do I think that they screw up every once in a while? You bet. Does the same go for DCA? You guessed it! Yes they do. Do they provide what they advertise? Without a doubt yes. Do people get starry eyed when they think about airplanes? Yes. Do you see where I am going with this. People tend to see the outer shell of things, and more often than not and only vent on stupid message boards when they have bad experiences. I doubt you'll find a website that talks about how great UPS is other than UPS.com . Now do you think you'll find a website b!tching about how UPS sucks? I bet you could. Kind of reminds of jetcareers. It is all relative here folks. Everybody just tends to focus on the negative, it is part of being human. It is your job as a consumer to investigate the product you will recieve upon payment. If you like it, jump right in, if you don't well go on to the next product.
So Mr. UPS to close my rant, do not think that DCA is unholy because of marketing, because your company does the same thing. Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job! 10:00 guaranteed delivery? Yea right!
planediveguy
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hey Don... The race is still on... truboprops don't count... we were talking about getting into a part 121 operator in a jet, right?
I got two more months to go so your friend might be able to get there first as the regionals are hiring like crazy.
I'm having a great time doing end of course stage checks on the Seminole for now... and by the way, since I did the group leader thing, I was delayed at least 6 months, compared to the people that graduated from standz at the same time as myself... all of them hired and in training for a right seat of a CRJ or ERJ right now...
This site might make you feel good in your personal crusade, but I gotta tell you that this place is in reality insignificant and a reason for entertainment for guys like Montana and MNixon...
Hope all goes well with your friend and if you are ever into Scuba Diving, let me know. I would be glad to help.
I got two more months to go so your friend might be able to get there first as the regionals are hiring like crazy.
I'm having a great time doing end of course stage checks on the Seminole for now... and by the way, since I did the group leader thing, I was delayed at least 6 months, compared to the people that graduated from standz at the same time as myself... all of them hired and in training for a right seat of a CRJ or ERJ right now...
This site might make you feel good in your personal crusade, but I gotta tell you that this place is in reality insignificant and a reason for entertainment for guys like Montana and MNixon...
Hope all goes well with your friend and if you are ever into Scuba Diving, let me know. I would be glad to help.
DE727UPS
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"hey Don... The race is still on... truboprops don't count... we were talking about getting into a part 121 operator in a jet, right?"
Not sure I remember. If you think 121 RJ F/O time equals 135 PIC turbine, I'd strongly disagree. You could also use a W2 comparasion as a gage, if you'd like.
He could leave right now for the regional of his choice but is gonna stay long enough to get the 1000 PIC turbine done. I think it would be a backwards move to go to a regional after being at Amflight long enough to get the 1000 PIC turbine, but it could happen. If it did, you could be senior it him at Delta Connection airline. You went to ASA or Comair before he went backwards to Skywest. Really don't think it will play out like that, though. I think he'll find something out of Amflight that allows him to skip the regional process.
I'd say give it another year and we'll see where you two are. You'll be at near the bottom of a regional list and he'll have 1000 PIC turbine, but not be on that regional list. Then, we'll have to go another year, and see who gets to the left seat faster. In the end, it really depends more on each persons goals and could be a moot point. Luck and timing plays a bigger part than where you went to school. Maybe DCA should mention that at their website should they care to be honest.....
Not sure I remember. If you think 121 RJ F/O time equals 135 PIC turbine, I'd strongly disagree. You could also use a W2 comparasion as a gage, if you'd like.
He could leave right now for the regional of his choice but is gonna stay long enough to get the 1000 PIC turbine done. I think it would be a backwards move to go to a regional after being at Amflight long enough to get the 1000 PIC turbine, but it could happen. If it did, you could be senior it him at Delta Connection airline. You went to ASA or Comair before he went backwards to Skywest. Really don't think it will play out like that, though. I think he'll find something out of Amflight that allows him to skip the regional process.
I'd say give it another year and we'll see where you two are. You'll be at near the bottom of a regional list and he'll have 1000 PIC turbine, but not be on that regional list. Then, we'll have to go another year, and see who gets to the left seat faster. In the end, it really depends more on each persons goals and could be a moot point. Luck and timing plays a bigger part than where you went to school. Maybe DCA should mention that at their website should they care to be honest.....
DE727UPS
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"So Mr. UPS to close my rant, do not think that DCA is unholy because of marketing, because your company does the same thing."
In my view, we are comparing apples to oranges. First of all, I could care less about what UPS says in their marketing, if you feel the same way about DCA, just say so.
Secondly. If your package got delivered after the guaranteed time, you're not supposed to have to pay for it. I'm not really sure, though, cause I use Fedex for anything important.
And lastly, we are talking about the sacred issue of pilot careers, peoples lives, and flight training. Not whether a box got delivered or not. To think that it's okay to mislead a young wannabe pilot about how things are in this industry is a HECK of a lot more important than whether your box got there in time. Perhaps you now understand why this issue (PanAm, DCA, and CAPT misinformation) means so much to me.
"Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job"
I'm not really sure, but I think you just compared Delta Connection Academy to a turd....
In my view, we are comparing apples to oranges. First of all, I could care less about what UPS says in their marketing, if you feel the same way about DCA, just say so.
Secondly. If your package got delivered after the guaranteed time, you're not supposed to have to pay for it. I'm not really sure, though, cause I use Fedex for anything important.
And lastly, we are talking about the sacred issue of pilot careers, peoples lives, and flight training. Not whether a box got delivered or not. To think that it's okay to mislead a young wannabe pilot about how things are in this industry is a HECK of a lot more important than whether your box got there in time. Perhaps you now understand why this issue (PanAm, DCA, and CAPT misinformation) means so much to me.
"Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job"
I'm not really sure, but I think you just compared Delta Connection Academy to a turd....
montanapilot
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but I gotta tell you that this place is in reality insignificant
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So why are you wasting your time by frequenting it then?
but I gotta tell you that this place is in reality insignificant
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So why are you wasting your time by frequenting it then?
dcapilot
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Seems to me that the proof of the Academy's success is in the results.....
Delta Connection Academy’s Jet Transition Course
Graduates More Than 200 Pilots
The Academy’s Advanced Training continues its successful flight path
SANFORD, Fla., June 17, 2005 – Since its launch in October 2003, Delta Connection Academy’s Advanced Jet Transition “Bridge” Course has graduated 200 students. The Bridge Course is designed to help Academy student’s transition from twin-engine training aircraft to more complex regional jet platforms.
In less than two years, the Academy has conducted more than 20 ground school classes and over 2,700 hours of instruction in their Regional Jet Flight Training Device, which is used to prepare Academy students to transition from the Academy to a First Officer position with their partner airlines, including the Delta Connection Carriers and American Eagle. The Jet Training Device introduces Academy students to today's advanced flight decks and provides training on systems such as Electronic Flight Information, Engine Information and Crew Alert, auto-pilot and Flight Management. In addition, the Jet Training Device offers a substantial degree of reality by featuring a three-channel projected visual system, two-seat cockpit, dual flight controls, a full navigation system, and an actual Collins Flight Management System software program. These systems allow student pilots to approximate the experience of an airline pilot during a simulated revenue flight operated on a modern regional jet.
“The Bridge Course has proven itself to be a highly effective training tool for our students and pilots who have trained elsewhere but need this type of advanced training to get hired by a regional airline,” said John McGann, director of Flight Standards & Airline Transition Programs at Delta Connection Academy. “From a student perspective, the transition from the small twin engine aircraft to the large, sophisticated regional jet is seamless. We continue to receive a tremendous amount of positive feedback from the airline training departments where our graduates have been hired.”
“Our partnership with Delta Connection Academy has been very beneficial over the years,” said Mike Piper, director of Flight Operations at Comair, a Delta Connection Carrier. “We appreciate the development of programs like the Bridge Course, which help ensure that Academy graduates possess the skills and knowledge to be successful in their initial First Officer Airline Training course and throughout their careers.”
Delta Connection Academy has produced more FAA-certified pilots in the past six years than any other flight school in the United States. A wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines, the Academy has a fleet of more than 110 aircraft and has trained students from 89 different countries and placed pilots with 26 airlines. Graduates of the Academy are guaranteed a job interview with a Delta Connection carrier, American Eagle Airlines, or with other partner airlines. For more information about Delta Connection Academy, please visit their web site at DeltaConnectionAcademy.com, or call 1-800-U-CAN-FLY.
Delta Connection Academy’s Jet Transition Course
Graduates More Than 200 Pilots
The Academy’s Advanced Training continues its successful flight path
SANFORD, Fla., June 17, 2005 – Since its launch in October 2003, Delta Connection Academy’s Advanced Jet Transition “Bridge” Course has graduated 200 students. The Bridge Course is designed to help Academy student’s transition from twin-engine training aircraft to more complex regional jet platforms.
In less than two years, the Academy has conducted more than 20 ground school classes and over 2,700 hours of instruction in their Regional Jet Flight Training Device, which is used to prepare Academy students to transition from the Academy to a First Officer position with their partner airlines, including the Delta Connection Carriers and American Eagle. The Jet Training Device introduces Academy students to today's advanced flight decks and provides training on systems such as Electronic Flight Information, Engine Information and Crew Alert, auto-pilot and Flight Management. In addition, the Jet Training Device offers a substantial degree of reality by featuring a three-channel projected visual system, two-seat cockpit, dual flight controls, a full navigation system, and an actual Collins Flight Management System software program. These systems allow student pilots to approximate the experience of an airline pilot during a simulated revenue flight operated on a modern regional jet.
“The Bridge Course has proven itself to be a highly effective training tool for our students and pilots who have trained elsewhere but need this type of advanced training to get hired by a regional airline,” said John McGann, director of Flight Standards & Airline Transition Programs at Delta Connection Academy. “From a student perspective, the transition from the small twin engine aircraft to the large, sophisticated regional jet is seamless. We continue to receive a tremendous amount of positive feedback from the airline training departments where our graduates have been hired.”
“Our partnership with Delta Connection Academy has been very beneficial over the years,” said Mike Piper, director of Flight Operations at Comair, a Delta Connection Carrier. “We appreciate the development of programs like the Bridge Course, which help ensure that Academy graduates possess the skills and knowledge to be successful in their initial First Officer Airline Training course and throughout their careers.”
Delta Connection Academy has produced more FAA-certified pilots in the past six years than any other flight school in the United States. A wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines, the Academy has a fleet of more than 110 aircraft and has trained students from 89 different countries and placed pilots with 26 airlines. Graduates of the Academy are guaranteed a job interview with a Delta Connection carrier, American Eagle Airlines, or with other partner airlines. For more information about Delta Connection Academy, please visit their web site at DeltaConnectionAcademy.com, or call 1-800-U-CAN-FLY.
Mustang17c
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Where did this "press release" come from?
mnixon
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"Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job"
I'm not really sure, but I think you just compared Delta Connection Academy to a turd....
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If in your little "Down with the man" world, that is what you take out of that statement so be it. It just shows your mental aptitude. But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.
"Marketing folks have to make turds shine, and in both our companies cases, they do a fantastic job"
I'm not really sure, but I think you just compared Delta Connection Academy to a turd....
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If in your little "Down with the man" world, that is what you take out of that statement so be it. It just shows your mental aptitude. But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.
montanapilot
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But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.
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such maturity. Did you consult my 6 year old niece for that one?
Thank God I dont have my life in your hands, jackass.
But hey while we're at it, nice turd brown uniforms plumber.
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such maturity. Did you consult my 6 year old niece for that one?
Thank God I dont have my life in your hands, jackass.
montanapilot
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Seems to me that the proof of the Academy's success is in the results.....
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looks like we got another one post wonder that management decided to drag up to "show all them ignorant fools".
Don't worry I'll be calling you out in a week or so to see if your still here or if your a troll like all the others.
Seems to me that the proof of the Academy's success is in the results.....
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looks like we got another one post wonder that management decided to drag up to "show all them ignorant fools".
Don't worry I'll be calling you out in a week or so to see if your still here or if your a troll like all the others.
You DCA guys effort on hear is worthless. You will never have a good reputation on this site (hopefully anywhere for that matter). Unless DCA changes their marketing they will never have the chance to be a sponsor on JC. I enjoy your weak attempts to redeem your academy, but seriously, you know you aren't going to change most peoples minds that your schools management and marketing sucks, and when potential students see that, they make the right decision not to spend money there.
Mustang17c
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Since you have not answered my question...
An internal press release does absolutely nothing for credibility. It is kind of like McDonalds putting out a press release saying how good their food is, and that you should go spend your money there.
If this comes from a legitimate non-biased news source, I apologize, and please send me the reference.
An internal press release does absolutely nothing for credibility. It is kind of like McDonalds putting out a press release saying how good their food is, and that you should go spend your money there.
If this comes from a legitimate non-biased news source, I apologize, and please send me the reference.
DE727UPS
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"If this comes from a legitimate non-biased news source"
Nah...it's from their website. Hardly unbiased.
What cracks me up is WAY more guys get hired at the regionals from FBO's than from DCA during any timeframe you'd care to mention. FBO's train WAY more pilots than DCA during any time frame you'd care to mention, too.
Nah...it's from their website. Hardly unbiased.
What cracks me up is WAY more guys get hired at the regionals from FBO's than from DCA during any timeframe you'd care to mention. FBO's train WAY more pilots than DCA during any time frame you'd care to mention, too.