Stop screwing up with Atlantic crossings….

[Autothrust Blue]

It’s embarrassing to hear.

One night down Managua, Nicaragua way, the silence on the darkened flight deck was abruptly broken with:

DFW Captain: "Ah can't understand these goddamned Mexican controllers"
Me: "Well, first of all, dude at Cenamer is sitting in Honduras and he is probably not Mexican, though it's surely conceivable. Second of all, he sounds pretty clear to me despite the fact that he's coming to us via a phone line that hooks up to a VHF radio that he has to key and unkey with number tones."

 

[Screaming_Emu]

Oddly, I find myself teaching experienced pilots how to hear and be heard in ICAO environments.

People like to laugh at the videos of JFK controllers berating foreign pilots, but generally the controllers are using absolute garbage phraseology.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

People like to laugh at the videos of JFK controllers berating foreign pilots, but generally the controllers are using absolute garbage phraseology.

Shocking, really, that some really scary runway incursions have happened there. Utterly shocking.

 

[derg]

EXACTLY the way they say it, or you’re going to repeat.

“It’s in the notes”

“Oh, I haven’t read those”

“You know this is OE, right?”

 

[derg]

People like to laugh at the videos of JFK controllers berating foreign pilots, but generally the controllers are using absolute garbage phraseology.

Truth. It’s like they speak in conversations “Now I want to to pull up and hold short of at alpha alpha wait for a three eighty super and head into the ramp after ‘Merican you got a gate open?”

Something that simple, to us, would throw a non-native English person in for a spin. Yet they do it, are misunderstood and now they’re screaming into the mic like:

 

[derg]

One night down Managua, Nicaragua way, the silence on the darkened flight deck was abruptly broken with:

DFW Captain: "Ah can't understand these goddamned Mexican controllers"
Me: "Well, first of all, dude at Cenamer is sitting in Honduras and he is probably not Mexican, though it's surely conceivable. Second of all, he sounds pretty clear to me despite the fact that he's coming to us via a phone line that hooks up to a VHF radio that he has to key and unkey with number tones."

Lemme guess. No headset, with the volume CRANKED and his ‘airing of his grievances’ keeps getting interrupted by otherwise legit radio calls…