Stop screwing up with Atlantic crossings….

luke3 said:
Also we need to stop sounding like amateurs on the radio anywhere outside of US airspace. It's getting embarrassing.
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My brain doesn’t do well after I’m told climb flight level 80. I much rather be in the left seat so I can think and not have to talk 🤣
 
Our issue we have is that the controllers query us about their oceanic reroutes they give us after we load them up.
 
Jordan793 said:
I was flying on the 5th (the day after Gander swapped over to the new procedure). Lots of international crews were asking for clarification on their clearance. Didn’t hear much from US airlines so I guess we’re reading a little better. Also, I believe “resume normal speed” isn’t a thing anymore. That went away with the oceanic clearance
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We departed EGGW-KMHT on the 3rd, coasted on at 0100Z - the level of irritation in the controllers voice as every single outbound crew tried to request CLX over VHF was palpable. (4th at 0000Z was the switch over- is assume US crews got the word pretty quick as the East departures tend to coast out at 0000z ish)

I get it though, it was the 3rd for those crews not the “4th” yet… but still Like we knew we were flying during the switch and had briefed both options coming out of London.

Where’s CC with his “corpies” lol
 
DeltaAlphaNovember said:
So much has changed since I went out on medical. If I go back to the 777 when I get my medical I'm going to have a lot to learn again.
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It’s so much easier. Your clearance is your clearance. No need to request it. You’ll get PD to oceanic altitude on VHF from gander or Moncton. Similar on the way west. CPDLC with nothing more than a selcal check.

Crossings have become relatively boorish now.
 
TUCKnTRUCK said:
It’s so much easier. Your clearance is your clearance. No need to request it. You’ll get PD to oceanic altitude on VHF from gander or Moncton. Similar on the way west. CPDLC with nothing more than a selcal check.

Crossings have become relatively boorish now.
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I’ve crossed the north Atlantic in an airplane that used celestial nav as the primary source backing up a drifting INS. Giving position reports every hour on HF and now look at it.
 
Wardogg said:
I’ve crossed the north Atlantic in an airplane that used celestial nav as the primary source backing up a drifting INS. Giving position reports every hour on HF and now look at it.
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We weren't celestial, but all but 3 of my Atlantic crossings were with triple mix IRS with DME/DME updating. No GPS. No SATCOM. HF position reports only. Nothing like getting your re-release from Shanwick at 2am, passing 20W on a relay over HF.

And this was in passenger airplanes for a major US airline.
 
Wardogg said:
I’ve crossed the north Atlantic in an airplane that used celestial nav as the primary source backing up a drifting INS. Giving position reports every hour on HF and now look at it.
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My grandpa was a flight navigator, in addition to all of his other certificates (from A&P to ATP to CFI).

I don’t even know who you’d get a civilian checkride for that with, nowadays. But I’ve always wanted to learn how to do that stuff.
 
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