SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Y’all sure complicate flying the 737, glad it’s just known as the “gentleman’s plane” at SJI and we just do our job.
Southwest tries to redecorate LGA tower
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Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
That gentleman must be that guy who works down there in at the steel mill.
///AMG
Well-Known Member
If it's my leg, when I talk about PM duties, I always ask....."hey if you have any energy management tips or techniques in general, I'm all ears". Especially when we are going to somewhere new (for me). Every big airport has its nuances, and some of that corporate knowledge is part of the "energy management" topic. No plan works in a vacuum......ATC/outside factors have a vote too. And it's still a license to learn, always.
I actually enjoy the times when they throw you a turd ball with no notice. Other than gusty crosswind to contaminated short runway, it's about the only challenge we have in this corner of aviation.
///AMG
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You can descend like a MFer in a fully loaded 9ER with F5 at UP bug, especially with the boards out. No gear needed. At least at or below turboprop altitude
Nobody in the training department teaches these techniques. Nor do they teach F10. And I hesitate to even mention this "technique" because I think it is actually bad technique only useful when you really F'd it away, but a quick dump from F30 to F40 and back can fix a heinous high/fast. Don't ask me how I know
///AMG
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///AMG
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Hey now, we have nothing else to do
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mmmmmm wine
You can descend like a MFer in a fully loaded 9ER with F5 at UP bug, especially with the boards out. No gear needed. At least at or below turboprop altitude
Nobody in the training department teaches these techniques. Nor do they teach F10. And I hesitate to even mention this "technique" because I think it is actually bad technique only useful when you really F'd it away, but a quick dump from F30 to F40 and back can fix a heinous high/fast. Don't ask me how I know
1000000%
Things like that show we are actually flying the airplane and understand it. No gear needed ever honestly. F5 and up bug or 190ish knots and F10 is like a superpower in the 737. You are positioned to configure and land like a rockstar almost immediately, from almost any position.
Toobdrvr
Estrellas Asesino
Spin the Alt knob up, let it revert to (present) VS, and truck on down to grab the GS….I’d say about as high as 70% of Airbus pilots of any flavor will get themselves screwed up in this scenario because when the plane “goes off script” it can be a bear in terms of energy management. Especially when you’re turned in and you’re trying to capture the GS from above, slowing and try to time it out around the market.
“I got it I got it I got it, it’s just about to…”
“Welp, there it is, ALT HLD, whatcha gonna do, sparky?”
BOSS MODE UNLOCKED.
Spin the Alt knob up, let it revert to (present) VS, and truck on down to grab the GS….
BOSS MODE UNLOCKED.
Or 1000AFE for at least a little insurance!
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Well the FH does say flaps are not to be used as speed brakes.
But I agree that flaps 5 at 210 knots. Or flaps 10 below 200 knots will be fairly decent to getting the job done.
///AMG
Well-Known Member
I look at the 10-7 note for JFK, about remembering the gear retract speed if you use them to get down on the high arrival to quick base turn. I'm kind of confused at this method.....I'm not afraid to swing the gear, I mean I expect them to work, and throughout my career they mostly have, but dropping gear and then raising and then dropping it again seems like weird flying to me. F5 or F10 and placard minus a few has never left me anywhere I didn't want to be on the overwater JFK downwind.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Works good, last long time…Flaps 2 and speed brake is what I use for JFK or ATL, and the 11,000ft to 3,000ft drop.
We never, ever use “up bug, or bug up”…and certainly never “gear down”, “ok, now gear up again”. We had someone at QX (who’s now y’all’s problem at AS) that would do that…or did it once and got told not to. That was on the 175.
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
Just did that an hour or two ago. Didn’t die (was the FOs leg)
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
Having 18 wheels to hang in the wind is a fun cheat code to use.
///AMG
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He'll probably never be my "problem" but that is f'ing lazy aviating IMO. We don't Bug Up either, outside the sims, where we do it HEAVILY. But I guess in some weird Narnia where there has been EMP and I am left without VNAV because I can't enter the EFAH, I'd know what to do. Hey hey
Also, how did we stumble upon a thread about actually flying airplanes and make it 7 pages? Doesn't someone want to talk about Donald trump yet?
JDean3204
Well-Known Member
He'll probably never be my "problem" but that is f'ing lazy aviating IMO. We don't Bug Up either, outside the sims, where we do it HEAVILY. But I guess in some weird Narnia where there has been EMP and I am left without VNAV because I can't enter the EFAH, I'd know what to do. Hey hey
Also, how did we stumble upon a thread about actually flying airplanes and make it 7 pages? Doesn't someone want to talk about Donald trump yet?
This thread, has been the best thread, better than all the other threads, the best thread ever read. Full of wonderful pilots, talking wonderful airplanes, the best airplanes. I asked them “how do you fly airplanes so wonderfully?” They really are the best pilots, better than any other pilots I know. And I know pilots, many, many pilots.
///AMG
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There were a million people there
JDean3204
Well-Known Member
We have pictures of it, big beautiful pictures showing all the people, millions and millions of people, great people.
Okay bed time, I just made myself dizzy
///AMG
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haha I put that comment at a 10% chance of making sense to anyone, I go to sleep too now.......something about being bought off a 3 day trip after day 1, and being in my bed 2 nights early
