Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no vfr
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NickH
Uber Driver
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
But they do so like to shut down the airport at the first flake!
But they do so like to shut down the airport at the first flake!
Aggiepilot
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Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
well... maybe once
Oh line crews never do that
well... maybe once
titansox
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inigo88
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flyboywbl
3rd regional in 1 year
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
There is this old pilot (has close to 60,000 hours) at our airport who flies a super cub. He takes biologists to count animals in Yellowstone. He was coming in one day and the airport was less then a mile vis. He asked the tower for a special VFR and they would not give it to him. He then asked them if they could see the runway from the tower. They said no. radio silence...
I can't believe this guy is still alive.
I remember he gave a talk to our class one year and this kid asked how to do a turn in the tight canyons. This old timer said "It's easy, Just pull back on the stick and give it lots of rudder to bring the nose around"
There is this old pilot (has close to 60,000 hours) at our airport who flies a super cub. He takes biologists to count animals in Yellowstone. He was coming in one day and the airport was less then a mile vis. He asked the tower for a special VFR and they would not give it to him. He then asked them if they could see the runway from the tower. They said no. radio silence...
I can't believe this guy is still alive.
I remember he gave a talk to our class one year and this kid asked how to do a turn in the tight canyons. This old timer said "It's easy, Just pull back on the stick and give it lots of rudder to bring the nose around"
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
We had a pilot at Martinaire get in trouble because she not only took off VFR while it was IFR but then she gave Center a bases and tops report when she called to get her clearance.
We had a pilot at Martinaire get in trouble because she not only took off VFR while it was IFR but then she gave Center a bases and tops report when she called to get her clearance.
TheAlchemist
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Roger, Roger
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Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
That....doesn't seem very bright.
That....doesn't seem very bright.
scooter2525
Very well Member
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
Her head is a little too much in the clouds.
Her head is a little too much in the clouds.
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
With doing something that stupid, she deserved everything she got. Talk about stoopid!
With doing something that stupid, she deserved everything she got. Talk about stoopid!
crfguy51
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Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
Last week I was VFR flight following on a cloudy day. BKN around 4000, we were flying at well below the clouds @ 2500 good vis. when center asked an IFR aircraft if they had us in sight (they were descending through the layer)..the IFR pilot gets on and says, "it's awful cloudy down there", and "there's no way that guy is in legal VFR"...nice...we were completely legal, but this set off a brief Q&A from the controller.. but yeah. I can see if someone is departing into IMC but some of these wanna be white knights who think they can interpret cockpit visibility while going through the clouds you are legally staying below are nuts, and then feel the need to blast you on the radio..
Last week I was VFR flight following on a cloudy day. BKN around 4000, we were flying at well below the clouds @ 2500 good vis. when center asked an IFR aircraft if they had us in sight (they were descending through the layer)..the IFR pilot gets on and says, "it's awful cloudy down there", and "there's no way that guy is in legal VFR"...nice...we were completely legal, but this set off a brief Q&A from the controller.. but yeah. I can see if someone is departing into IMC but some of these wanna be white knights who think they can interpret cockpit visibility while going through the clouds you are legally staying below are nuts, and then feel the need to blast you on the radio..
A150K
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Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
Well that's a candyass thing to do on his part. Reminds me of one of my co-workers who called me out in front of the owner the other day, but that's for another thread...
Well that's a candyass thing to do on his part. Reminds me of one of my co-workers who called me out in front of the owner the other day, but that's for another thread...
A150K
Well-Known Member
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
She must have felt pretty dumb after the fact....
She must have felt pretty dumb after the fact....
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
We had a crew at Horizon get into some trouble for busting VFR cloud clearance requirements with a Fed on the Jumpseat. Accepted a visual approach into PDX and proceeded to skirt just under the clouds (close enough that the Fed even asked them how far did they think they were below the clouds).
We had a crew at Horizon get into some trouble for busting VFR cloud clearance requirements with a Fed on the Jumpseat. Accepted a visual approach into PDX and proceeded to skirt just under the clouds (close enough that the Fed even asked them how far did they think they were below the clouds).
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
Well, I guess unless they flew up into the clouds, noted the altimeter, and descended, there isn't any way to be certain, is there?
But the Fed in the jumpseater in this case was an idiot. For had he ever read AIM 5-4-22(a), he would know that:
Well, I guess unless they flew up into the clouds, noted the altimeter, and descended, there isn't any way to be certain, is there?
But the Fed in the jumpseater in this case was an idiot. For had he ever read AIM 5-4-22(a), he would know that:
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
Same check airman that I had been flying with was saying they had a check airman meeting and it was brought up. Nothing came of it, that I know, probably just some Fed thinking he "got a crew". I've heard stories about a few SEA FSDO guys being airline washouts that make it there business to try and bust people, as sad as that sounds.
The only Fed's I ever had in the jumpseat were from the Helena FSDO going from SEA to HLN, and those guys were a pleasure to have on the jumpseat.
Same check airman that I had been flying with was saying they had a check airman meeting and it was brought up. Nothing came of it, that I know, probably just some Fed thinking he "got a crew". I've heard stories about a few SEA FSDO guys being airline washouts that make it there business to try and bust people, as sad as that sounds.
The only Fed's I ever had in the jumpseat were from the Helena FSDO going from SEA to HLN, and those guys were a pleasure to have on the jumpseat.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
The only Fed I know well at all is a hell of a nice guy. Ex-airline, but just got tired of bankruptcy and furloughs.
The only Fed I know well at all is a hell of a nice guy. Ex-airline, but just got tired of bankruptcy and furloughs.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Re: Some dummy taking off vfr and picking up an ifr. Only no
Most of the one's I've encountered have been great guys, but there have been a few that were just jackwagon's. Our POI for Wings Air tried to bust me on my ATP/135 Ride because I couldn't get the Navajo's engine to restart in the air (after the emergency shutdown). He wouldn't let me use the Autopilot and I don't have 3 hands to fly, reach above my head to hit the starter and move the mixture.
I threw out the whole PTS standard to him and he backed off, but with some of those guys you've got to watch out.
Most of the one's I've encountered have been great guys, but there have been a few that were just jackwagon's. Our POI for Wings Air tried to bust me on my ATP/135 Ride because I couldn't get the Navajo's engine to restart in the air (after the emergency shutdown). He wouldn't let me use the Autopilot and I don't have 3 hands to fly, reach above my head to hit the starter and move the mixture.
I threw out the whole PTS standard to him and he backed off, but with some of those guys you've got to watch out.