Social Media and the job hunt.

At a certain airline there is now going to be free chat via facebook, iMessage, or whatsapp. No sign ups, no gogo logins. So, um, do pilots get in on this action? ;)
 
At a certain airline there is now going to be free chat via facebook, iMessage, or whatsapp. No sign ups, no gogo logins. So, um, do pilots get in on this action? ;)
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Can I ask in a candid moment, are you guys saying you've never seen one of your fellow pilots be on gogo inflight internet? Not saying on company websites, just in general?

I'd tell said pilot to get off the interwebs if they knew what was good for them. Usually asking them how they are going to explain to their family how they got fired because they couldn't follow rules does it.

If it interferes with checklists or flying, there is one conversation. Second time, I call skeds and have them removed from the trip.
 
You might want to remind said individual at Delta that it is strictly worded that one CANNOT be logged in to Gogo while in the cockpit, with the exception of authorized channel, which limits what can log in. This goes for jumpseaters as well, although less enforced. The PED policy is very restrictive.
pretty sure thats the rule everywhere
 
I'd tell said pilot to get off the interwebs if they knew what was good for them. Usually asking them how they are going to explain to their family how they got fired because they couldn't follow rules does it.

If it interferes with checklists or flying, there is one conversation. Second time, I call skeds and have them removed from the trip.

That's just it. I'd love to surf the web as I was working, but it just isn't worth the risk for me. Incredibly traceable and it seems like companies don't have a particularly lenient past on issues like that.
 
Well no one is saying do any of that stuff during checklists or during flight duties. We're talking level cruise. I guess I don't see how reading a USA today physically is much more different than USA today on your iphone/pad with wifi. And reading paper non-pertinent company material (aka USA today) is just as banned as using gogo internet for non-approved sites. Also, ya mean to tell me you've never seen a guy "research" his commute options home and loads during cruise?

In a virtual airline world, I know virtual airline pilots who split Gogo accounts 2, 3, 4, or 5 ways with other virtual pilots. And they don't use it just for their virtual commutes. Full disclaimer that I'm speaking about the virtual world, not real world airlines or pilots.
 
Can I ask in a candid moment, are you guys saying you've never seen one of your fellow pilots be on gogo inflight internet? Not saying on company websites, just in general?

No one is idiotic enough to admit that, if applicable, on the internet.

Remember, corporate policy is under no obligation to be convenient or make sense to you. But if you want to cash dat check, well, you know how the rest goes.

Sorry for the delay in replying, Minneapolis Center wasn't taking my check-in.
 
No one is idiotic enough to admit that, if applicable, on the internet.

Sorry for the delay in replying, Minneapolis Center wasn't taking my check-in.

You're right. I meant to ask in the virtual airline sense, with virtual airline pilots. The fake, non-real life ones. :)
 
Virtual Airline World? Oh yeah man, some reported for Quartz would absolutely be diverted by that! Ha!
 
Well no one is saying do any of that stuff during checklists or during flight duties. We're talking level cruise. I guess I don't see how reading a USA today physically is much more different than USA today on your iphone/pad with wifi. And reading paper non-pertinent company material (aka USA today) is just as banned as using gogo internet for non-approved sites. Also, ya mean to tell me you've never seen a guy "research" his commute options home and loads during cruise?

In a virtual airline world, I know virtual airline pilots who split Gogo accounts 2, 3, 4, or 5 ways with other virtual pilots. And they don't use it just for their virtual commutes. Full disclaimer that I'm speaking about the virtual world, not real world airlines or pilots.

I agree with you that in a perfect world it should be allowed when things aren’t busy.

BUT it’s not allowed and I’m not sure I want to risk my career on the idea that I probably won’t get caught.

Not that it’s even an option at my place.
 
An interview for law school?

Only school that wanted to talk to me during the 2009 application cycle was Howard, and that was because I was on the wait list and they had too many applicants.

Everyone else just gave a thumbs up or thumbs down based on LSAT/GPA.

This was 2007-ish. The interview is a big, big deal for MD, DO, DVM, Pharma, etc. Not so much Law. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
 
I'm still rather astonished that we have to have this conversation in 2017. I mean, really?

Maybe its that whole "normalization of deviance" thing...
 
This was 2007-ish. The interview is a big, big deal for MD, DO, DVM, Pharma, etc. Not so much Law. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

I'm not sure if it's not trying, it might be more that kids from ANY generation have no idea how to dress well.

Until I was in law school, I owned one suit, and it had never seen a tailor. Why? Because I didn't know any better. I thought my brown suit with white shirt and a paisley tie looked boss in 2006, and to tell you the truth it got me two jobs flying airplanes.

It took me being in court every day for a summer to start to piece together what looked presentable, and that's primarily through trial and error.

So give the kids some slack, I say, they're just kids. But then again, I went to a state school for undergrad and was tier 4 trash in law school, and never got a call from a Tier One airline, so maybe that explains my opinions.
 
Maybe its that whole "normalization of deviance" thing...

This. And its only gonna get more NORMAL to deviate. My captain buddy at alaska says its already been happening there. Generation ME has become of working age and infiltrated cockpits. lol. have fun out there :)
 
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