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After this week’s meetings in LAX, a TA has just been published for voting in mid June. I haven’t read it through and digested it yet.
 
I just don't understand with 4500 pilots and an increase for east coast bases, how we have nothing for commuters? I don't even commute to work either!
 
BrettInLJ said:
Based on unscientific Facebook polling, I wouldn’t count on that.
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Last TA was a heavy no from FB poll and it passed. I'm already prepared for this to pass. Once it does, we should have no issues getting new hires in. We will lose our voice completely.
 
Straight pay it's about a 10% increase for me. I'll have to go and see what bonuses I'll lose to see what the net gain is. I got excited about the 25% and 50% if you block over 79 and 89 hours respectively. But, you can't have dropped any pairing, nor any part of any pairing, and you must only pick up company open time, not crew posted. So way to encourage helping the company out, but not your fellow pilot out that may want to attend a family event or just take a break. No more PPS for FO's either. Way to tell every FO that they better upgrade and commute to the East Coast. Okay the good part is introducing duty rigs base on ACTUAL duty. Nothing for commuters, no extra days off.
 
YTD, by my calculations, the new pay rates would still leave me several hundred behind Republic and a couple thousand behind Endeavor. And the only thing in it that goes anywhere toward addressing the QOL/scheduling/benefits areas where we are lacking is the 2:1 actual duty rig. Otherwise it's false hope and backwards steps.
 
saxman said:
Straight pay it's about a 10% increase for me. I'll have to go and see what bonuses I'll lose to see what the net gain is. I got excited about the 25% and 50% if you block over 79 and 89 hours respectively. But, you can't have dropped any pairing, nor any part of any pairing, and you must only pick up company open time, not crew posted. So way to encourage helping the company out, but not your fellow pilot out that may want to attend a family event or just take a break. No more PPS for FO's either. Way to tell every FO that they better upgrade and commute to the East Coast. Okay the good part is introducing duty rigs base on ACTUAL duty. Nothing for commuters, no extra days off.
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28% increase in base pay for me

Loss of 7/900 override is 6%/8%
Loss of financial and performance is roughly 9%
Loss of PPS is roughly 10%?

So it's essentially a 3-6% pay bump for me respectfully. With the option of a 1% pay bump at any time. With no added QOL improvements, besides duty rig based on actual duty. I don't really block over 79, and never over 89. I rarely see that as is. If it was credit and not block, different story.
 
Based on our lovely green note, compared to my current rate, it's a 7.46% hourly rate increase. Now, since the bonuses aren't portioned out equally through the year they are currently over inflating my current rate and the % increase will get a little bigger on an hourly basis as the year moves on, but it's not going to suddenly make it significantly more. YTD if I plug in the new numbers the new policy would be a 7.2% increase, but no matter how I fudge the numbers for the rest of the year, I can't get it to be more than about 8% overall. Honestly, going to scheduled block or better without touching our rates would get me close to that already.
 
Acrofox said:
That's the perfect summary.
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Always has been and always will be with Skywest. People do fuzzy math and get an X% increase in pay, better work rules. Who cares about this or that (I didn’t even allot for that so it doesn’t count anyways!). Meanwhile, someone who went to even one math class in high school can tell you, it’s a 1% raise. That’s what Skywest does. 1%. They are VERY good at shifting numbers and making it look great. Then management, er...SAPA, sells it out as a huge victory.

Sorry peeps. It may look like more than 1%, but management knows more than you. It’ll be 1%. Kind of like when the TA was presented with HUGE increases for E120 guys, passed, only to have that fleet obliterated something like 4 months later. Big win for the company.
 
Does anybody know if it gets passed when new hire bonuses would take effect? I have a July 5th class so trying to see if it would even make a difference for me.
 
Cris said:
Does anybody know if it gets passed when new hire bonuses would take effect? I have a July 5th class so trying to see if it would even make a difference for me.
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No. New hire bonuses are written as an option at management discretion. My guess is if it passes they'll sit on it for a bit and see if the rates alone work for recruiting.


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saxman said:
Straight pay it's about a 10% increase for me. I'll have to go and see what bonuses I'll lose to see what the net gain is. I got excited about the 25% and 50% if you block over 79 and 89 hours respectively. But, you can't have dropped any pairing, nor any part of any pairing, and you must only pick up company open time, not crew posted. So way to encourage helping the company out, but not your fellow pilot out that may want to attend a family event or just take a break. No more PPS for FO's either. Way to tell every FO that they better upgrade and commute to the East Coast. Okay the good part is introducing duty rigs base on ACTUAL duty. Nothing for commuters, no extra days off.
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You time out at 1000 block hours per rolling year. That averages to 83.3 hours per month. The average block system wide is 65 hours. Almost no one will see those incentives and they dont go in effect until after the summer to make sure of that.
This slight of hand trick by the company exemplifies what this whole package is.
 
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