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Cazadores said:
Indeed, they will, because they can. Reserve at SkyWest is not a joyful spring hayride.

It is the reason I think so many bypass upgrade. It's that bad.


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Yep. Did it for three years as a captain. Year one is ok, year two starts getting annoying, and year three was when my morale took a nosedive. I’m not a negative person, so that really bothered me and I knew I needed to make a change before it affected me permanently.

I still think it was worth getting my TPIC and leaving ASAP, but yeah it can be very frustrating.
 
I'm in my first month on reserve as a captain. On my only reserve block and I've been OBRd for 5 days away from base (that I live in) to sit here and not get called. Today we'll see if I actually know the new reserve bidding or if I messed it up entirely
 
Cazadores said:
Indeed, they will, because they can. Reserve at SkyWest is not a joyful spring hayride.

It is the reason I think so many bypass upgrade. It's that bad.


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I don't even understand how to bid for it. Due to our shrinking I'm back on reserve. Bid a PM line and clicked prefer LC. Didn't get it. I'm 2nd in line on reserve. I actually kinda miss the hard reserve lines.
 
Cory Trevor said:
Well the bids are even more depressing than I imagined, why did I upgrade
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To leave. That’s how you have to look at it. Sitting on your butt as a FO isn’t going to make things happen (unless you’re in the training department or something).

I upgraded at the first available opportunity, and left an awesome schedule as a senior ASE FO to commute to reserve as a captain. It sucked big time, but it was worth it.
 
tcco94 said:
Cazadores said:
Indeed, they will, because they can. Reserve at SkyWest is not a joyful spring hayride.

It is the reason I think so many bypass upgrade. It's that bad.


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I don't even understand how to bid for it. Due to our shrinking I'm back on reserve. Bid a PM line and clicked prefer LC. Didn't get it. I'm 2nd in line on reserve. I actually kinda miss the hard reserve lines.
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The hard lines were actually better I think. The whole proffering mess on top of the ridiculous "TA" debacle is almost like a joint BYU behavioral sciences/SGU experiment.

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Yeah it seems with long call reserve no longer being a thing you can specifically bid for, reserve just moved up in the layers of hell.


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Hard lines definitely seemed like they were better. With hard lines you could sort of tell what the“coverage days” were based on how the lines were built. This bid period I wanted 2 weekends off and thought I’d maybe have a chance. Nope, every weekend was a coverage day
 
Yeah just pick the line where you needed your days off. Pick AM, pick PM or pick long call only.

Now it just seems like a total cluster


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BEEF SUPREME said:
Yeah just pick the line where you needed your days off. Pick AM, pick PM or pick long call only.

Now it just seems like a total cluster


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Not to mention wasting an entire layer for one reserve line and if PBS can't honor one day, the whole layer goes out the window.
 
Have any of you guys used the proffering to your benefit? I’ve taken a quick look at it and i honestly don’t ever see myself using it anyway. The whole thing just seems like a giant failure that should probably be reversed
 
Agreed. Total fail. I don’t know why proffering had to come at the expense of bidding for specific lines? Regardless don’t hold your breath on this ever going away...


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I was actually really looking forward to proffering. I like 3-4 day trips and have found many in open time that I've wanted, only to see them go to people junior than me. It sounded like a great program and even the auto acknowledge wasn't a big deal to me. What we didn't know was the computer automatically proffering for you, giving you trips outside your RAP, and checking your phone on your days off. Also, if I proffer for a 4 day and I'm the only one to bid for it, it can go to someone senior to me who didn't proffer for it?? How does that make sense.

I've even sent emails about how this effects PM reserves giving auto acknowledge for a 4am trip and you telling me I have to be alert by my phone on my last day off. I'm pretty sure it's not even legal by the FARS. It was acknowledged in my reply and I was told it would be fixed. Unfortunately, here we are months later and no changes.

All of these were presented to us as QOL improvements, but both proffering and bid days off reserve benefit the company and hurt us. We've turned our good reserve rules (for regionals) into a downgrade among our competitors. Which is absolutely baffling in the current market we're in.
 
tcco94 said:
I was actually really looking forward to proffering. I like 3-4 day trips and have found many in open time that I've wanted, only to see them go to people junior than me. It sounded like a great program and even the auto acknowledge wasn't a big deal to me. What we didn't know was the computer automatically proffering for you, giving you trips outside your RAP, and checking your phone on your days off. Also, if I proffer for a 4 day and I'm the only one to bid for it, it can go to someone senior to me who didn't proffer for it?? How does that make sense.

I've even sent emails about how this effects PM reserves giving auto acknowledge for a 4am trip and you telling me I have to be alert by my phone on my last day off. I'm pretty sure it's not even legal by the FARS. It was acknowledged in my reply and I was told it would be fixed. Unfortunately, here we are months later and no changes.

All of these were presented to us as QOL improvements, but both proffering and bid days off reserve benefit the company and hurt us. We've turned our good reserve rules (for regionals) into a downgrade among our competitors. Which is absolutely baffling in the current market we're in.
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Haha, did you just say our reserve rules were good before all this mess? Surely you jest.
 
Our reserve rules are not that bad, nor were they particualry egreggious before the proffering mess. Improvable, yes, but not terrible. Now, as to whether they are (or were) ever being truely followed is a different matter. At times it seems as if we have three seperate systems (proffering, auto accept, and old school) which are often at odds with each other and with no clear guidance as to which is controlling and no clear leadership working to resolve the confusion. It may be happening, but beyond “we told the company and are waiting to hear back” there seems to be little action being taken to remedy the situation.

Then again it is also debatable as to whether the rules were, on the whole, ever actually widely understood or viewed in a singular manner. It is a related but largely seperate matter that knowledge in our policies is not well communicated and is by and large expected to be gained on a self taught and hard knock basis which does not lend itself to widespread and uniform understanding.
 
tizzizzailslf04 said:
Someone always has to come with this tired @$$ statement. As always, it's not "them" preventing you from getting hired. It's you. Reflect.
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