Scam? I think so.

Wow... just saw this and all i can say is... i'm going to the store right now to pick up oh... a couple dozen eggs... Super Walmart has the 18 packs on sale.. then heading over to this clowns place to redecorate... unfortunately, this is Vegas, baby ! No shortage of scammers here...

Done. This place is less than 3 blocks from our practice space. Let's pay them a visit. Im actually interested in driving by it the next time we have band practice to see whats up. Anyone need their money back? :D


Guys...be sure to take some pictures after and PM them to me, please.
 
:crazy:The reason the 747 has no engines and it’s called “Family Airlines” is because they cater to only those people who are afraid of flying and afraid of heights. And with no engines, you can cut your fuel costs down tremendously! Talk about no frills. The only catch is the destinations are simulated. A dude with a boom box will play a cassette tape of music to where you destination was suppose to be. I guess they need to make that clearer in their brochures. :sarcasm:
On a serious note, I will contact some of my friends in law enforcement and see where they are in this particular case. Unfortunately, this kind of crap has been going on for a while and like other scams, doesn’t show any signs of stopping. :banghead:
Be cautious. As stated before, ” if it sounds too good to be true…”, well you know the rest.
Be safe and fly high! :rawk:
 
I sent the media the info on Family Airlines. Ill let you know what they say.
Trust me I thought about the eggs, however they would simply just clean them off. :)
 
I sent the media the info on Family Airlines. Ill let you know what they say.
Trust me I thought about the eggs, however they would simply just clean them off. :)

I don't know that I want local news media doing ANY stories about aviation.

Just promise me that you give a really good "expert" soundbyte when they call you.
 
I don't know that I want local news media doing ANY stories about aviation.

Just promise me that you give a really good "expert" soundbyte when they call you.

Well Im down to go do the egg thing if you wanna meet up. ;)
 
Yeah...lets stick it to people trying to get home to their families after a 6 day trip, that will teach em a lesson.:sarcasm:

I'm all about it! You see, I've actually got a wife, rent, and all that other kind of stuff to pay for, so I'm ALL about screwing people that have screwed me. They don't see their families, then tough nuts!
 
I have spoken to two of my friends in Metro. (Las Vegas Metro Police Department)

On the record they say that they are aware of it and will continue to investigate. :banghead:

Off the record, contacting the local media is the best bet to get this the attention it deserves. :panic:

KTNV ABC Channel 13 702-257-8326 (Contact 13 Investigations)
KVBC NBC Channel 3 702-657-3150 (News Desk)
KVVU FOX Channel 5 702-436-8256 (News Desk)
KLAS CBS Channel 8 702-650-1960 (Newsmaker Line)

If anyone has been ripped off by these jokers, call the news numbers I provided for you. Maybe they can help. Don't let this die. It angers me when chuckle-heads scam money out of hard working people, and in todays economy we just can't afford it.

Good Luck To You!

Fly Safe, Be Happy! :rawk:
 
I know that there is alot of negative air about this guy and his airline but they own a 747. I just applied and the fee seems like a small price to pay for a lifetime of 747 time. This is a once in a lifetime oppurtunity you can't pass up. I always wanted to fly a 747 on short haul routes just like I do in FS! I'll see you guys in the air
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I have spoken to two of my friends in Metro. (Las Vegas Metro Police Department)

On the record they say that they are aware of it and will continue to investigate. :rawk:

Good on you, but from the point of view of a criminal investigation, how can anyone prove a case against these jokers? They have a docket on file with the Department of Transportation, business plan, etc. That's a lot of effort for someone who just wants to rip off pilots $50 at a time via paypal. How does one prove that the "proposed" business venture is not a legitimate endeavor? (I'm not saying that it is, I'm just asking how one might build a case against them).

The "charity" contribution website, well maybe that's a more cut-and-dry example of fraud if the money isn't actually going to charity, and that can be easily proven.
 
Yeah...lets stick it to people trying to get home to their families after a 6 day trip, that will teach em a lesson.:sarcasm:


Ok, anyone that uses their family as a shield to justify their actions in working for a place that massively screws others is a coward SOB.

It's one thing to be ignorant of a place and make a bad decision with your career. It is altogether a whole different thing to knowingly go work for the place after several people warn you of the consequences. You go to work for a scab outfit, do not play the poor me card when you can't see your family because you are the one that put yourself and your family in the situation.

Seriously, a pilot that goes to work for a place that drops the bar to the depths of hell for everyone else in the industry and makes it harder for me to put food on the table is not going to make me feel sorry for him when he gets denied a jumpseat, even on Christmas.

You make your bed, you better be prepared to lie in it. Playing the emotional card I do not respect.
 
They pay very fair for the equipment compared to many ALPA positions and the are now unionized (GoJet). I love the word scab being thrown around everywhere in this industry. A wise man once told me if you treat your employees right there is no need to unionize. Obviously, no one in airline management understands this so I guess they are a necessary evil if there is abuse at your place of employment. I really don't buy into this whole thing, join a Union for pilots by pilots mumbo jumbo. If you really look into it, the Union is just there to make sure you make fair wages, get treated with the respect you need from your employeer, and cover your back. Hire a couple aviation attorneys for the union and they are as spanking fantastic as ALPA. I am sure I will be on a couple peoples ignore list because of the this post but you know what I really don't care. As for burning bridges...if some are willing to go out of their way to try an sabotage someone's career due to one's beliefs because they think they are a higher tier of pilot due to the union they work for, fine. Just take a real close look at yourself in the mirror. Pilot's are suppose to be a close knit community and over the past couple months on this site I have seen very little of that. When times get bad everyone points the finger. If your furloughed I am sorry but deal with it...I have upmost respect for you and whoever you may be supporting but there is other options that may include a "scab" company. If you got to put food on the table figure out a way of doing it beside blaming GoJets if you are a TSA pilot instead of being bitter and looking for ways to get back at these "scab" pilots.

I am by far without blame in some of these subjects. I have been unemployed for 5 months and yes I am probally going to have to grab a job outside of aviation until the market turns around. It sucks but I am just going to have to deal with it. It would be so nice to be able to afford 100 hours of multi and a CRJ course and then hop on to Eagle at some point this year but it is finicially not possible (probally a waste of money also). Should these people be denied jumpseats because they are "stealing jobs" in the industry over more qualified candiates? Should GS'ers be denied jumpseats because they are also stealing seats over more qualified canidiates? Though I don't agree with either I do not think anyone should be denied jumpseats or blackballed from the community, interviews, etc.

Finally those with the power to deny jumpseaters really take a good look at yourself and other collegues before you deny a jumpseat. Stop stroking ego's and pushing agendas through the use of a jumpseat. I don't care if you are the most hardcore ALPA nazi and a GoJets jumpseater is trying to get home on a heavy bird. If there is a way to get him/her on the plane even with more work on your end you should do so. Everyone talks about burning bridges in this industry and it is a double standard. It is ok to burn bridges with GoJet or Mesa or Jetblue pilots or any scab pilot but not the other way around. What happens when that GoJet pilot is a AA recruiter 20 years down the road and you were the ALPA whatever for your airline?

I am sure I will get the your just a 300 hour 20 year old pilot what do you know. Well to be honest I don't know everything about the industry in fact a probally know just enough to get by. However I am intelligent enough to make conclusions based on knowledge off of other people and other sources of information. Any intelligent human being can do this. Does it make them an expert absolutely not but really who is in this industry?

In conclusion, grow up people. Agenda's should not be pushed through the use of a jumpseat. Pilots are Pilots are Pilots and instead of making others lifes living hell wake up and work together with another aviator.

End Rant - 3am spelling?:) why is the sp checker not working?

Fly safe,

jhugz
 
Ok, anyone that uses their family as a shield to justify their actions in working for a place that massively screws others is a coward SOB.

It's one thing to be ignorant of a place and make a bad decision with your career. It is altogether a whole different thing to knowingly go work for the place after several people warn you of the consequences. You go to work for a scab outfit, do not play the poor me card when you can't see your family because you are the one that put yourself and your family in the situation.

Seriously, a pilot that goes to work for a place that drops the bar to the depths of hell for everyone else in the industry and makes it harder for me to put food on the table is not going to make me feel sorry for him when he gets denied a jumpseat, even on Christmas.

You make your bed, you better be prepared to lie in it. Playing the emotional card I do not respect.

Best post I've seen in a long time. Well said! :yup:
 
JHugz,

I'm not an airline pilot right now either, but I'm smart enough to listen to some of these guys instead of constantly arguing with them. I have heard the GOjets story from a guy that was with TSA when GOjets was formed. What that company did to its pilots was disgraceful. I understand that people need to put food on the table. I am one of them, but I'm not going to sabotage my own career by going to GOjets. Going to that company knowing what they did and what it will do to your career is just stupid. That is part of the reason you are getting beat up about GOjets.

If you were a newbie pilot that went to GIA not knowing how it was seen in the industry, people probably wouldn't beat you up. Going to GOjets knowing that the company is bringing the industry down is another issue completely.

Anyways, we should probably get back on the original subject again.
 
If your furloughed I am sorry but deal with it...I have upmost respect for you and whoever you may be supporting but there is other options that may include a "scab" company.

OK, since my previous post corrected a word, I will continue with a communication idea. Clear communication can vastly improve a persons quality of life to the upmost.

Try not to use the word "but". This word renders everything in front of it a lie.

I really love your dress BUT...
I loved the (insert Merchant Ivory chick flick) BUT...
Sorry you got fired BUT...

The word "but" tends to obscure a clear statement. For some, they see it as BS and for those that do not see it that way it can confuse the statement. Be clear and direct with your communication. Effective communication tends to be efficient communication - using the word "but" tends to make communication longer than it needs to be.

Look at me, I am like SafetyEngineer except with communication!

Communicate Safe, Be Happy! :rawk:

(Just kidding SafetyEngineer - I like your posts - just jabbing you a little which is a key factor on JC).
 
OK, since my previous post corrected a word, I will continue with a communication idea. Clear communication can vastly improve a persons quality of life to the upmost.

Try not to use the word "but". This word renders everything in front of it a lie.

I really love your dress BUT...
I loved the (insert Merchant Ivory chick flick) BUT...
Sorry you got fired BUT...

The word "but" tends to obscure a clear statement. For some, they see it as BS and for those that do not see it that way it can confuse the statement. Be clear and direct with your communication. Effective communication tends to be efficient communication - using the word "but" tends to make communication longer than it needs to be.

Look at me, I am like SafetyEngineer except with communication!

Communicate Safe, Be Happy! :rawk:

(Just kidding SafetyEngineer - I like your posts - just jabbing you a little which is a key factor on JC).

I did the post at 330 am... I in no way expect the grammar or spelling to be anywhere near perfect.
 
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