Reno race crash in front of grandstands

Honor the departed by continuing the tradition of air shows and air races.
 
Tram said:
Are you seriously trying to say that the streets of America are just as dangerous as the Reno Air Races?
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By the way... If you want to argue, let's argue with my exact statement, not the words you want to put in my mouth.

You're comparing one apple to several train loads of oranges. This is what you said:

Tram said:
How many people have died on the roads "towards" Reno in the last 5 years? I'll go out on a limb and say a tad over 17.
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As for all the emotional arguments for why the Reno air races should continue, the fact of the matter is: nobody cares. At least not outside the aviation circles.

It's the same argument that pilots get worked up over regarding airports that get restricted or closed due to noise abatement, when the airport had obviously been there far longer than the people complaining about it have nearby. Guess what? Nobody cares. At least not in the court system or political system. I participated in that battle long ago with regards to KSDL and all the problems it was having, even resulting in a Scottsdale City Councilman advocating the banning of miliary aircraft from having landing rights. Know what I learned? Nobody cares. Not unless the $$$ add up right.

The question isn't safety at Reno, and it isn't going to be emotional outbursts from those that love Reno of why the Reno Air Races should stay and it's history. The question....the ONLY question...is going to be: Is it more profitable to put the show on, or to pay out potential litigation, following the fallout of this accident?

That's it. Thats all there is. Fair or unfair doesn't matter. Right or wrong doesn't matter.
 
fholbert said:
By the way... If you want to argue, let's argue with my exact statement, not the words you want to put in my mouth.

You're comparing one apple to several train loads of oranges. This is what you said:
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I guess "roads towards Reno" is what is throwing you, eh?

It could be said "all roads lead to Reno.."

There is a stretch of road I could take from my house and drive to Reno.. 2,181 miles worth of road. If I were a betting man, I'd have no issues saying more than 17 people have died on that stretch of road this month, much less, this year..

Reno is not anywhere near as dangerous as the 30 minute commute man of us make to work. It's not near as dangerous as the 25 minute ride to get a gallon of milk, a dozen eggs and a loaf of bread many of us take each week.



MikeD said:
The question....the ONLY question...is going to be: Is it more profitable to put the show on, or to pay out potential litigation, following the fallout of this accident? That's it.
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.. and the answer to that is the end of Reno, me thinks.
 
Tram said:
.. and the answer to that is the end of Reno, me thinks.
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It seems more and more areas of life are becoming ruled by the concern over litigation. Where does it stop? Why does society allow this addiction to a pseudo safety net of insurable risks so that someone can get paid when something bad happens?

For those who feel Reno should be stopped, when and where did you feel that you were crowned "protector of all" and have the right to decide what is/is-not an acceptable risk for another human being? Is it not acceptable enough that you have the free choice to participate or not?
 
rframe said:
It seems more and more areas of life are becoming ruled by the concern over litigation. Where does it stop? Why does society allow this addiction to a pseudo safety net of insurable risks so that someone can get paid when something bad happens?
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Unfortunately, I think it's out of our hands at this point. I think we've all but lost our country to, for lack of a better term - communists. The only way we will get it back is revolution.
 
It is the attitude of disasters = winning lottery ticket. Brought to you by your friends, the lawyers.
 
they took away my ability to post...so I liked them and then in the recommendation page wrote my true feelings

"we might as well all stay home...or we could die. Don't go in the bathroom either!" Vultures
 
It is really sad that this happened. I had about 10 friends sitting in a box about 50 yards from where the plane hit the ground. Fortunately none of them were hurt because the shrapnel sort of went at an angle away from them instead of directly at them. It sure is a shame for a loss of life like this to happen. I really hope it doesn't end up with the races being cancelled forever. The Reno air races are one of the last motorsports in the U.S. that haven't been just completely ruined by corporate advertising and people trying to make a profit off of the sport (in my opinion at least, just look at all of the other sports out there and how commercialized they are) . The lawsuits that come out of this are just going to be horrific. I really wish the best for all of those that are injured the the ones that didn't make it.
 
Wait, wait, wait, the races should be cancelled why? Because some spectators, spectators who knew and willingly accepted the risk, were killed? No way.

You buy a ticket to a game you are accepting the risk of getting hit by a baseball, hockey puck, or someones beer.
 
pullup said:
Wait, wait, wait, the races should be cancelled why? Because some spectators, spectators who knew and willingly accepted the risk, were killed? No way.

You buy a ticket to a game you are accepting the risk of getting hit by a baseball, hockey puck, or someones beer.
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I want to say you're 150% right, however we are living in a country, where people make millions by suing companies after they spill hot coffee on their lap. I'm going to a Red Sox game tomorrow, if I get hit in the head by a foul ball, should I be able to sue? I think this is an absolute tragedy, however accidents happen, and that's what this was.
 
They should be held in Texas. I'm pretty sure that with the tort reform that Perry put in, losing lawyers are executed.
 
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