Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Back then, with the pay rates, you could easily do it. After the BK bloodbath, it’s the only way some guys will be able to live and fund a retirement.
Reality check
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Back then, with the pay rates, you could easily do it. After the BK bloodbath, it’s the only way some guys will be able to live and fund a retirement.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Twelve year 737 captain at AMR: $270/hr
If you can’t live and fund a retirement on 70 hours a month at that rate, then you’re horribly incompetent at managing your finances. And that’s the lowest paid equipment.
HRDiva
Well-Known Member
We funded our retirement extremely well on way less than that; it’s all about management as you said.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Lol.
skatergeek
Beet Farmer
You’d be amazed with some of the guys I fly with. They have planned horribly or are completely out of touch with money...or both... Last dude I #triggered was allllllll about full pension restoration. “I figure I’ll need about ~18k a month to retire comfortably”. Really dude?
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Oh, I know, I used to fly with the same guys. When you keep digging, you find they’ve got three ex-wives, seven kids on child support, a lake house they hardly use, a corvette collection, etc. But yeah, they need 95 hours of credit to “get by.”
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
Yep. These same idiots at my last airline said that by not furloughing the junior guys during the last downturn, they got totally screwed when the line credit decreased.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
Including 16% DC to 401k, which gets added to the check after the 58(?)k.
L-16B
Well-Known Member
What did Delta have back in the day?
Think USAIR had a lot better rigs. Every line was 18 days off or so. At least that’s what they tell me.
AA was a hard 75 hr cap.
I find it fascinating how it used to be. And sad how it is today.
F
Flying Saluki
Guest
Airline pilot is one of those professions where you can make a lot of money without really knowing how to make a lot of money. Same reason why athletes, rock stars, and lottery winners go broke.
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
I heard that’s where all the dicks work.
So you're saying I have a chance?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
This is My Screen Name
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There are definitely things that are specific to my regional and other things that would most likely apply at any regional.
The concern was that over the long term, since we are basically mirroring mainline that, other than the pay, it wouldn't be that much better at mainline - which was based on the majority of what I've been told while sitting jump.
Funny, after making this post I was I was the terminal going to work, a mainline guy gave up his jump so that I could have it to get to work. Prior regional guy that wasn't that far removed from the regional. Said he could afford to miss work more than I could. Anyhow, got to talking and he broke down the negative stuff at mainline. A lot of it really only applies to specific situations - i.e. a reservist flying 8 hours and only crediting MinDay.
Due to scheduling conflicts I won't even be going to the competing regional interview now. As I was fully aware and mentioned several times I knew I sounded crazy for even thinking it. As previously talked about though, there most likely be some changes while I'm gone on military orders at the regional and mainline level.
Give it a whack when I get back and reevaluate from there.
Thanks for all the helpful replies.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Depends. If you're in the Bay Area looking to buy real estate on the peninsula side/around SFO, you're on the poor side.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Depends. If you're in the Bay Area looking to buy real estate on the peninsula side/around SFO, you're on the poor side.
If you’re living in that area as overpriced as it is, you’re nuts.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Oh, the humanity.
This is My Screen Name
Well-Known Member
???
Is this some kind of inside joke or something?
You can't possibly be suggesting that blocking 8 hours and crediting 4 is in any way ok. I mean I guess it is possible but I assume you have all your brain cells...
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
I don’t know what circumstance where flying 8 but getting paid 4 would exist, anywhere.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Well, the latter question is a matter of some discussion in certain circles, but the reserve compensation models I've hitherto labored under did not reward equal work with equal pay. In fact, they largely did not even come close. Not an excuse for it, merely facts.
That said, I cannot see a scenario, even under those (archaic, but still present) systems, where an 8-hour block day would not at least credit (not the same as pay) 8.0. I could certainly concoct scenarios under which you would work several of those full days and not see one additional red cent (beyond per diem) on your paychecks.
Pretty much. I'm going to assume aforementioned aggrieved mainline pilot was on about something else, and that their bag of gold bars was too heavy or something.
