QX2059 Jumpseater tries to shutdown engines

sweeps said:
A friend brought this up to me… what IF, and I mean a big IF, the jumpseater reached up and tried to pull a fire handle by mistake? I’ve flown a few types that have handholds in the general area of where the T handles are on this airplane. Getting up to stretch legs, go take a lav break? Total brain fart, reached up without looking?
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This was my first thought. Especially for CRJ drivers.

It has happened in the past, and the handle was carefully re-stowed.

sweeps said:
Never flown a 175 but are the handles only able to be pulled if there is a fire indication or hitting a lock override if there isn’t?
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That's not how the system is designed. The fire protection system is pretty common (and public) knowledge, so I don't consider it SSI (nor, as far as I know, does anyone), but I'm not particularly comfortable talking about it in depth at this time.
 
I’m just a 91 puke here so I’m not trusted with near as much SSI as the real pilots…but it it really makes me chuckle some of the stuff that’s totally fine to chat about and the stuff we’re told is SSI. I hope it’s better on the airline side of things but I’m convinced that the TSA hires CBP rejects. And the TSA rejects run airport badging offices.
 
sweeps said:
A friend brought this up to me… what IF, and I mean a big IF, the jumpseater reached up and tried to pull a fire handle by mistake? I’ve flown a few types that have handholds in the general area of where the T handles are on this airplane. Getting up to stretch legs, go take a lav break? Total brain fart, reached up without looking?
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I dont think he'd have been charged for attempted murder if that was the case (the public charges are floating around online already).
 
melax said:
I remember years ago, when the FFDO program was just being implemented, a new hire performed a 'traffic stop' following a road rage incident near the airport and stated "he was a law enforcement officer" , produced his brand spanking new mini musket to achieve compliance with the law !
Needless to say that the responding city cops were from PHL and well versed in the law. He was promptly bagged, stuffed and taken to jail. Probably lost his job too.
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melax said:
I don't remember, it was a long time ago.
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The GoJets guy was in Deland, FL.

Ironically enough, he was actually at my Virgin America interview in 2012. I didn't know it at the time, but once I found out, it didn't shock me at all.
 
azmedic said:
This is why you keep your social medias locked down - or just don’t have them..


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… we lock down our socials in case we go bonkers and embarrass ourselves and family?

It’s about time somebody reminds us this could happen to anyone.

I’m not the homicidal type, I’m just impatient. I’d just firewall the throttle levers, maybe a bit of TOGA power. 250 knots under 10K? You want me in that jump seat, you need me in that jump seat.

Maybe I’ll just open the door and pop the slide. What kinda trouble would that get me in? I guess I’d have to ask an FA. They probably think about it all the times.
 
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Pilot Fighter said:
… we lock down our socials in case we go bonkers and embarrass ourselves and family?

It’s about time somebody reminds us this could happen to anyone.

I’m not the homicidal type, I’m just impatient. I’d just firewall the throttle levers, maybe a bit of TOGA power. 250 knots under 10K? You want me in that jump seat, you need me in that jump seat.

Maybe I’ll just open the door and pop the slide. What kinda trouble would that get me in? I guess I’d have to ask an FA. They probably think about it all the times.
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K
 
I have a pretty rudimentary, Hollywood-based, understanding of PTSD. But if 10% of that is true, what a horrible situation to find yourself in, if this were the outcome (not saying it was, I know nothing about this one). And how horrible would it be to have news porn publicizing pictures of your home, and everything else about you.
 
DE727UPS said:
I seem to recall after 9/11 there was no jumpseating for a time. I can't remember if it was just offline or everyone. Brown would implode with no company jumpseating.
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Maybe positive space commuting will become a normal thing, permanently. Either way it would suck to not have JS privileges. It’s pretty much next to impossible to non rev anywhere, even this fall.
 
MikeD said:
That’s the media for you. Sensationalism sells…take a story and make it juicy. And that all that’s cared about. Not about merely reporting news anymore.
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With regards to the news, the Internet has brought me more facts but I can’t say that news coverage has improved.

In high school, my family subscribed to the Washington Post, Sunday edition of the NY Times, and a few magazines including The Economist. I went to the library every week to surf the periodical section. I watched national news and Firing Line and McLaughlin Group on the weekends.

I think I had a better grasp of the news and major issues than I do now.
 
MikeD said:
That’s the media for you. Sensationalism sells…take a story and make it juicy. And that all that’s cared about. Not about merely reporting news anymore.
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Like the Arizona news agencies that consistently shows mangled cars from fatal accidents almost on the daily? It’s like they get off on it


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I don't remember CL600 school very well for a host of reasons (one maybe being that I never actually flew the damned thing), but I don't recall the fire handles being significantly different from any other jet. You might pull *one* accidentally, I guess (I mean they're gigantic and RED, but ok)? But two?
 
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