QX2059 Jumpseater tries to shutdown engines

Canadians, I swear.
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I dont think he'd have been charged for attempted murder if that was the case (the public charges are floating around online already).

Since when are the police known for taking their time and getting all the facts straight? It seems he was charged before the paxs even made it home.

I’m calling it now. It was a accident and the media is running with it. Aka Palestine hospital “bombing”
 
Since when are the police known for taking their time and getting all the facts straight? It seems he was charged before the paxs even made it home.

I’m calling it now. It was a accident and the media is running with it. Aka Palestine hospital “bombing”

It would really suck to be that guy right now then


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It would really suck to be that guy right now then


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Yup. Just like it sucked for the millions of Jews suddenly blamed for killing 500 innocent people in a hospital when it turned out it was completely made up.

This is why I won’t say • over the radio. Ask for a number and call on satcom or the ground. Too many losers with a scanner turned on 24/7 listening to everything anyone says in the air.
 
Canadians, I swear.

Not just Canadians
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Those black guarded buttons on both sides under the glare shield are the fire lights of the F/A-18. The actual way to blow the bottle is pushing a button over on the far left, above the yellow (emergency stores jettison) button and Master Arm switch. Maybe the Canadians loved this so much in their hornets they ran with it :)
 
Not just Canadians
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Those black guarded buttons on both sides under the glare shield are the fire lights of the F/A-18. The actual way to blow the bottle is pushing a button over on the far left, above the yellow (emergency stores jettison) button and Master Arm switch. Maybe the Canadians loved this so much in their hornets they ran with it :)

What’s the hornet colored guarded switch on the right? Spin, RGWY and NORM
 
What’s the hornet colored guarded switch on the right? Spin, RGWY and NORM

That activates manual "spin recovery mode". It is never used, and is prohibited in fact, aside from the FCF ground checks on a legacy Hornet (F/A-18A-D)....it dumps the leading edge flaps full down which is a specific test point. My understanding is that it was a relic of the flight test jets that never went away. The issue is that when SRM is engaged, it gives full stabilator authority and sort of bypasses the normal closed feedback loop of the flight control computers and FCS. So if you aren't actually in a spin, it could be real bad. With the switch guard down (in NORM rather than RCVY), there is still automatic SRM, which is activated above a certain AoA with a certain yaw rate and a few other things that are honestly pretty hard to hit all at once. But it gives you the "spin arrows" on the displays, showing which way to shove the stick, which in turn, is the pilot consent for SRM to engage the flight controls and do its thing. I've only been in a fully developed spin once, and the arrows went away about 2 seconds after I put the SRM control inputs in. Step 1 of our out of control flight boldface/memory items is "Controls - Release" which 99% of the time fixes everything unless you are doing something really hamfisted, or trying to go over the top/pure nose high without enough airspeed and a partial or full boot of rudder input........the way we intentionally spin it (which is a syllabus flight during initial training) is park the nose 90 deg nose high, and at about 100 knots indicated, you split the throttles, one in full afterburner, one at idle, and throw in full rudder, full aft stick in pro-spin direction, wait....wait.....wait some more, flop over, wait some more, wait more as it flops around and swaps ends, and then finally it starts a traditional spin.......there is lots of angry beeping and tones, and if you are lucky you see the spin arrows for a split second. This was not the case in the 1980s and most of the 1990s, where we had a couple nearly unrecoverable spin modes you could get into. But the software got fixed eventually.
 
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Anybody see the meme page up on Facebook? Highly unlikely but someone said the jumpseater was having an affair with the operating captains wife. They got in a fight and during the scuffle somebody hit the fire test button. Seems farfetched I know. Probably people starting a crazy rumor.
 
Really makes me wonder what the convo/atmosphere in the cockpit before the incident was like. I mean if it was quick I don’t see how he wouldn’t have been successful in turning an engine off
 
Not just Canadians
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Those black guarded buttons on both sides under the glare shield are the fire lights of the F/A-18. The actual way to blow the bottle is pushing a button over on the far left, above the yellow (emergency stores jettison) button and Master Arm switch. Maybe the Canadians loved this so much in their hornets they ran with it :)
Off topic, but what is the yellow guarded switch on the right with Spin Recovery/Norm?

Edit: Nevermind. Apparently asked and answered lol
 
Anybody see the meme page up on Facebook? Highly unlikely but someone said the jumpseater was having an affair with the operating captains wife. They got in a fight and during the scuffle somebody hit the fire test button. Seems farfetched I know. Probably people starting a crazy rumor.

This is exactly how unfounded rumors gain credibility. "Over on a pilot forum I read...."

Unless you have first hand knowledge because it is your marriage involved, I'd probably avoid giving that storyline any oxygen.
 
This is exactly how unfounded rumors gain credibility. "Over on a pilot forum I read...."

Unless you have first hand knowledge because it is your marriage involved, I'd probably avoid giving that storyline any oxygen.
You’re right. Will be deleted.
 
That activates manual "spin recovery mode". It is never used, and is prohibited in fact, aside from the FCF ground checks on a legacy Hornet (F/A-18A-D)....it dumps the leading edge flaps full down which is a specific test point. My understanding is that it was a relic of the flight test jets that never went away. The issue is that when SRM is engaged, it gives full stabilator authority and sort of bypasses the normal closed feedback loop of the flight control computers and FCS. So if you aren't actually in a spin, it could be real bad. With the switch guard down (in NORM rather than RCVY), there is still automatic SRM, which is activated above a certain AoA with a certain yaw rate and a few other things that are honestly pretty hard to hit all at once. But it gives you the "spin arrows" on the displays, showing which way to shove the stick, which in turn, is the pilot consent for SRM to engage the flight controls and do its thing. I've only been in a fully developed spin once, and the arrows went away about 2 seconds after I put the SRM control inputs in. Step 1 of our out of control flight boldface/memory items is "Controls - Release" which 99% of the time fixes everything unless you are doing something really hamfisted, or trying to go over the top/pure nose high without enough airspeed and a partial or full boot of rudder input........the way we intentionally spin it (which is a syllabus flight during initial training) is park the nose 90 deg nose high, and at about 100 knots indicated, you split the throttles, one in full afterburner, one at idle, and throw in full rudder, full aft stick in pro-spin direction, wait....wait.....wait some more, flop over, wait some more, wait more as it flops around and swaps ends, and then finally it starts a traditional spin.......there is lots of angry beeping and tones, and if you are lucky you see the spin arrows for a split second. This was not the case in the 1980s and most of the 1990s, where we had a couple nearly unrecoverable spin modes you could get into. But the software got fixed eventually.
More importantly, the switch above it appears to be in the, "O-F-F, OFF! OFFFFF!" position.
 
I'll start with the news article is terrible, and kind of disgusting. Who takes a picture of the front porch and just canvasses the neighbors for click bait? The family is dealing with enough.... However, and I understand how much of a tangent this is..... How is THAT house is $1.2 million? Housing prices are wild. Good for them to be able to afford it but what? That's looney tunes.
 
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