Wardogg
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I’ll buy that but the impact was on the right side which would mean a right wing stall rolling the aircraft right. But it rolls left.
PSA CRJ-700 AA midair collision
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AM011309
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Working two or more positions is completely normal sometimes. I don't mean normal as in "regularly done because of staffing", which, yes that also happens and shouldn't, but I mean there are a lot of times where the operation dictates combining positions and it would be weird not to. I'm not familiar with DCA so I don't know which kind of normal it was, but the practice of combining positions in and of itself is not something to get hung up on.
Inverted25
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There are pics on one the Facebook groups I saw from the rescue boats and you can see the right wing but it looks like the left wing is missing. Maybe it separated on impact with water.
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AM011309
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Then it would have been two people doing "administrative duties" and not just 1. I can promise that.
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Inverted25
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You can see the right wing. Left wing appears to be missing. Guessing helicopter went under belly and impacted from bottom
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Pilot Fighter
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That was my point. I was cautioning against giving too much credence to reports that don’t understand the dynamic nature of controller staffing. The fact that two is normal doesn’t mean that one is unsafe.
Also, the segregation of responsibilities doesn’t necessarily mean that an extra controller represents an extra set of eyes on the same thing.
Inverted25
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In the Gulfstream we can put it into threats only mode. It will only show airplanes that are identified by TCAS to be potentially a threat to your flight path.
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Wardogg
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After viewing the new vids on a computer screen I agree. It looks like a left wing failure.
You can see the right wing. Left wing appears to be missing. Guessing helicopter went under belly and impacted from bottom
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I'm trans and transitioning to a woman and created a new account with a new email address.
I heard it on the news 3 hours after it happened and said out loud "holy •." I was shocked, but not surprised, giving the close calls at DCA and the tight air space. I didn't know there were helicopter routes through the DCA airspace.
This is personal to me, too. I will be going to Maryland near DC soon and was going to use DCA because it has the only direct flight from my city to the area and my destination is about the same distance from IAD, BWI and DCA. I was just there last March. I love the interior architecture and the convenience to DC via the Metro but the airfield always scared me. I'm going to use BWI for my trip after witnessing this crash, even if it means having a connection. I hate IAD.
I'm here to learn but also want to contribute when I have something I feel is worth posting. Notice I also asked a few questions too. The hostility is unnecessary and unwarranted and is really putting a bad taste in my mouth about this place. I've been here for over a decade. I mean seriously wtf.
It looks like Doug merged my accounts. That should stop any further hostility.
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perhaps take the perspective of the rest of us, who, until derg merged your accounts, thought you were a new user only using the forum to extract information from the rest of us to write an article. You had a newly created account and your only posts were asking questions about the crash. No one knew you've been here for a decade.
Garmin also doesn't put Flight ID on the display unless you have a TCAS-specific pane displayed. Also, I absolutely love TargetTrend.
Fair enough. I didn't know I needed to explain myself. I probably should just have changed my username instead of creating a new account but didn't realize that was an option.
JDean3204
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Serious question, do you think the FAA could possibly raise the maximum age to be trained as a controller? I understand the investment involved when picking a candidate off the street to train, so knowing you get the return on investment is important. However, I can’t imagine being a controller really jumps out at the younger crowd (<30) these days. Not a good job to glamorize on their TikTok’s
Just letting my mind wander is all.
Just letting my mind wander is all.
Pilot Fighter
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Before we see that, we will see other strategies that work within the framework. Recruiting of military controllers, recruiting of former controllers, retention of controllers under age 56..
Hammertime
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Why? Genuinely curious. It is easily the most underutilized international airport on the East Coast. Easy to navigate, almost never delays unless there's weather directly overhead. As far as I'm concerned, a contributing factor to this accident is too much traffic crammed into a very constrained airspace. This is due to passenger and political demand. I am very curious as to the reasons why passengers "hate" IAD.
The layout, the very long walk get through security and to the gates. The shuttles to get to the outer concourse. I haven't been to IAD since 2016. Maybe things have changed since then. The much needed Metro connection is a plus.
I agree that IAD could handle more traffic from DCA. DCA should never have been a hub, but when I fly to the east coast, I often am offered connections through DCA. I prefer Charlotte if I'm flying American. And cross-country flights from DCA to tiny ass cities like Wichita is nuts.