WacoFan
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Waco, I wouldn't hear the hostility if there was one anyway, this is all just words on a screen. You can make your points to me without having to apologize while you make them. Continuing on.
I counter that you are free to treat the employees differently. With proper documentation you can exact certain punishment as well as termination to an employee, however that requires managers to do their jobs. We've downgraded and fired pilots at this company, and I would say we have strong union reps. If you have a complaint directed at a particular pilot you have to go through the process, there are few shortcuts when you have a CBA (in which the CBA has outlined an agreed course of punitive actions). The process is fair and treats pilots fairly, however it does not treat them equally. There used to be a lot of contraband magazines pictures in the cockpit years ago, many of those pilots had a letter in their file and a suspension as a result, that it certainly something that will stick with them as they move forward in their career. Some pilots have multiple failures in the sim, that will stick with them. I know of instances where a few pilots wouldn't come to work on reserve (commuters), the union and management couldn't kick them out fast enough. In one particular instance they told the guy he was fired but they were so short staffed they'd let him know when he was fired at a later date so get back to work, that's absolutely inexcusable, you can't have guys in safety roles working while they know they are going to be fired soon. The pilot was treated fairly and fired (I think he quit first) in a timely manner.
You're points all revolve around control, and mine revolve around a fair process. I don't know what this has to do with the inept inbreds that run my company, maybe this should get splintered off into another thread or PM, but it's probably about time we brought it back onto topic.
You're right - it IS about control. The kind of person that starts a business is generally a) equiped with a pretty strong ego b) an individualist (why else would they strike out on their own) c) not much of a joiner d) by nature looks at the business as their creation, belonging to them exclusively, and therefore loathe the idea of ceding any amount or kind of control. I think much, or all, of those traits are hard-wired into a business owners head. Making unions - a group people join to work on their behalf by taking things that belong to you - antithetical to something a normal business owner would like or want to deal with. Now, you may have to at some point - and you try to manage that process as best you can (SWA) - but if you asked Gary Kelly tomorrow "Would you love for all the unions to implode so you didn't have to deal with them?" he's crap his pants in happiness.