Pinnacle guys - is it almost finally time?

by the way ATL guys, i hope you enjoy going to GDL this fall. That right there is enough for me to say so to dual qual.
 
i was exploring travelnet and i saw that there is a proposed schedules section and right now its proposed for september. Seriously, this is why all 76 seat jets need to be at mainline.
 
pilotlight said:
i was exploring travelnet and i saw that there is a proposed schedules section and right now its proposed for september. Seriously, this is why all 76 seat jets need to be at mainline.
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No argument here. I'd rather retire flying a -900 for mainline than a -900 at Pinnacle. I love how everyone in the crew rooms starts the "They're swapping out -200s for -900s!" rumor and I rip their dream bubble to shreds by mentioning mainline's scope clause. I REALLY hope they don't roll that scope back. If it means it lands me back in the right seat, it'll suck, but maybe I'll actually have somewhere to GO once things start rolling again. They relax scope, and I'll keep my seat here....for a LOOOOONG time.

I haven't looked on the new travel system yet. Holding on to my $50 as long as I can.
 
kellwolf said:
No argument here. I'd rather retire flying a -900 for mainline than a -900 at Pinnacle. I love how everyone in the crew rooms starts the "They're swapping out -200s for -900s!" rumor and I rip their dream bubble to shreds by mentioning mainline's scope clause. I REALLY hope they don't roll that scope back. If it means it lands me back in the right seat, it'll suck, but maybe I'll actually have somewhere to GO once things start rolling again. They relax scope, and I'll keep my seat here....for a LOOOOONG time.

I haven't looked on the new travel system yet. Holding on to my $50 as long as I can.
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are people really starting that swap 900's rumor again?
 
I've found its very hard to get rumors started these days when you don't have any new people to screw with.

Been trying to get a Skywest/Republic rumor going but no bites. It's like people aren't even looking for rumors at this company anymore...

What the hell am I going to do with my free time!
 
And of course I've flown with guys in the CRJ-900 that look at me like I'm crazy for saying I want my job to go to mainline.... "at least you've got a job".... me: "the payrate sucks" them "you are sooooo lucky to be working so why worry about the payrate"

I'd like to see a day where all jets regardless of size make it back to mainline..... Maybe we won't see any 50 seat jets at mainline because they won't exist? And there needs to be a line drawn for turboprops as well..... we've got the Q400 boring holes into the sky with 76 seats as well.
 
I'm so lucky to be working. . .for a penny a day.

Oh yeah, that's luck.

Sometimes just having a job isn't good enough. Now, of course, to some people - depending on their upbringing - will work for a penny a day.
 
Also, you know what is frustrating? S.E. posted that they had not heard back from the nmb but no one seems to know any kind of time line of when they are going to get back to us. Is it that top secret?
 
pilotlight said:
Also, you know what is frustrating? S.E. posted that they had not heard back from the nmb but no one seems to know any kind of time line of when they are going to get back to us. Is it that top secret?
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I would suppose they want to delay pissing you guys off. You know, how long can they hold out?
 
pilotlight said:
Also, you know what is frustrating? S.E. posted that they had not heard back from the nmb but no one seems to know any kind of time line of when they are going to get back to us. Is it that top secret?
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I don't think it's top secret, I just think the NMB is "icing" us and just not telling us. I don't think there ever was a timeline to keep secret. It was more of a "We'll let you know something by next week." The shop that has my car said they'd let me know something "tomorrow," and that was Thursday.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
The NMB is hoping that the delay will make both sides feel some pressure to move off of their positions and reach an agreement. That's their job.
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Don't know how much more the pilots can do. We threw about 3 counter proposals the last time, and the company played stubborn two year old.
 
kellwolf said:
Don't know how much more the pilots can do. We threw about 3 counter proposals the last time, and the company played stubborn two year old.
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Oh, I know. But you have to remember that the NMB plays the roll of impartial mediator. They aren't supposed to care which side is right, they're just supposed to put equal pressure on both sides to bring the parties to an agreement. If all else fails, the final pressure is the 30 day cooling off period. It seems evident to me that you're on the way to that final element of pressure, but the NMB is waiting as long as possible, hoping that somebody will budge first without them having to resort to a cooling off period.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Oh, I know. But you have to remember that the NMB plays the roll of impartial mediator. They aren't supposed to care which side is right, they're just supposed to put equal pressure on both sides to bring the parties to an agreement. If all else fails, the final pressure is the 30 day cooling off period. It seems evident to me that you're on the way to that final element of pressure, but the NMB is waiting as long as possible, hoping that somebody will budge first without them having to resort to a cooling off period.
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Company's been dragging their feet like a half dead zombie corpse for the past 5 years. Hell, if I were paying 2005 wages in 2009, I'd be doing the same thing. No reason to expect them to suddenly change, no matter how motivated they claim to be in Clive's weekly memos.
 
pilotlight said:
released by the end of the month if nothing is hammered out by then? Anyone confirm this one?
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I don't believe that is the case. The NMB never tells you that a release is coming until they actually give you a release. That would give one side more power than the other, and that's in direct conflict with the intent of the RLA.
 
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