Pilot Killed on 2nd Leg of Round the World Flight

Wardogg said:
There is a museum in Joplin MO at the airport with a map of all the old silos in KS and MO. All declassified and shut down these days. You can actually buy them as a place to live.

If only I could convince the wife…..

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There used to be 54 Titan II ICBM silos, three bases of 18 silos each (9 per missile squadron), one of which was Tucson. And where the only one as a museum is located. Unlike Minutrman and Peacekeeper ICBMs, where there was an underground command center and 10 dispersed missile silos, the Titan II system was one ICBM per command center, as individual silos. A couple have been purchased here with people digging into them after the USAF imploded the silos, but left the command centers intact, just destroying the stairs and elevator system into them. The Tucson silos are some of the only useable ones, as the Arkansas and Kansas silos are often filled with water. One Titan command center that was opened up for the first time since 1984, had an unopened Arizona Daily Star newspaper from the date in 1984 when the command center was sealed up for the last time, sitting nicely folded on the command desk as if it just came off the newspaper rack.
 
My mom was a relic of the late '60s hippie movement and was very anti-nuke, my dad was fascinated by weapons of mass destruction so we all gathered around our TV to watch "The Day After". I was 12 or 13 and had been through the dumb drills at school for an imminent disaster, in hindsight I think it was more about scaring the kids into submission. Regardless of my parents opinions when we watched it I was sort of terrified initially but my dad assured me that the Skunkworks was just down the street and we'd never suffer the after effects. It was an impactful movie for an entire generation mainly because it was on broadcast TV and because we only had a few networks it was the thing to watch, just like "Roots" a half decade earlier.
 
Pilot Fighter said:
I know a guy that races his at Reno. He’s a former member of the U.S. Aerobatic Team.

He told me that it was an honest airplane but post-stall behavior is terrifying to the uninitiated. He has spun his a few dozen times and he said he now averages about 4k feet to recover. He was 5-6k on his first efforts. Not your dad’s 172.
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a legacy or a IV? I had a friend get into an accelerated stall in his legacy during turbulence trying to avoid buildups mid teens and ended up spinning it into imc, recovered coming out of the bases 6k later. no one’s raced a IV for quite a few years so i’d be interested if that’s what your acquaintance flies
 
inigo88 said:
I have definitely heard IVs have a bit of a reputation, though I haven’t had the pleasure of flying one personally. I knew a guy who built his own Legacy and never stalled it as a matter of policy, and I’ve heard the IV and 235/360 are worse.

Considering Lance Neibauer’s background was in marketing and not aeronautical engineering, nobody should assume these airplanes are certifiable under part 23 (especially with regards to stability aft CG and the post stall/spin behavior), because the barrier to entry for experimental amateur built is significantly lower. I still think they are absolutely bad ass airplanes, and super cool Lance designed it without an engineering background, but they definitely command caution and respect.
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years ago skip holm did a friends small tail 360 checkout in his newly purchased airplane, they slowed to about 100kts and tried rudder inputs to assess authority
something along the lines of “never stall this” with some four letter words

they are otherwise an absolute dream to fly. (build quality dependent)
 
knot4u said:
I don't think anyone liked "The Day After" but it gave a whole lot of people a glimpse of the possible reality at a time when that seemed like a real possibility. Happily we're all still here to talk about it.
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Looking back, it felt so inevitable.
 
bp said:
a legacy or a IV? I had a friend get into an accelerated stall in his legacy during turbulence trying to avoid buildups mid teens and ended up spinning it into imc, recovered coming out of the bases 6k later. no one’s raced a IV for quite a few years so i’d be interested if that’s what your acquaintance flies
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He raced a Legacy, pretty sure that’s what he was talking about.

Most recently, he raced a Glasair.
 
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I remember The Day After but mostly the lead up/quasi hysteria about it. My dad had worked on nukes in the USAF and I was fascinated with them. Long before the movie I'd already fully comprehended MAD and his statement that surviving a nuke was probably the worst outcome and that is why it was good we lived in a good target - we'd get zapped quickly. I was actually fairly sanguine about it. The primary thing I remember as well gathered our small family unit was enormous laughter and jokes. My mom was a Mizzou graduate. Dad was a graduate of KU. Why they allow Tigers and Jayhawks to intermarry baffles me but I usually sided with mom. So lots of jokes from mom about how great it was that they were nuking Lawrence, KS. At the end of the movie I feigned emotional distress - full-on Emo - and told them I was too "emotionally distraught" by the movie and they hadn't provided "talking about the movie and nuclear war with sensitivity for your children like the news suggested" for me to even consider going to school the next day. To which they both laughed really hard and told me to get my ass to bed. It is actually a fun memory for me.

Now, there was a movie on TV earlier that year called "Special Bulletin" that creeped me out. Terrorists were going to explode a nuke in Charleston and it was shot like a live action Special Report they used to break into network coverage with. For some reason that felt scarier and more relevant than many felt. It was awesome though and better than The Day After just in terms of entertainment. I'd watch it today.
 
Skåning said:

View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DFDo0PQP-7t/?igsh=MWZmOHFuZXhpcGxlbA==
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Unless companies start extremely cracking down on this, I’m sure this will be the new normal. This may seem abnormal and absurd, but this is how this new generation communicates. It’s no different than when we used to pick up the phone, and call our friends. This is the outcome of letting the tech nerds run rampant and unregulated, getting people to communicate with their social skills.
 
HJB said:
Unless companies start extremely cracking down on this, I’m sure this will be the new normal. This may seem abnormal and absurd, but this is how this new generation communicates. It’s no different than when we used to pick up the phone, and call our friends. This is the outcome of letting the tech nerds run rampant and unregulated, getting people to communicate with their social skills.
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Yeah, no. This is not the same. When I got braces I didn’t cap all of my friends and tell them I got braces and then also tell them I didn’t want anyone to see me yet.

This is way different than the old days.
 
WacoFan said:
I remember The Day After but mostly the lead up/quasi hysteria about it. My dad had worked on nukes in the USAF and I was fascinated with them. Long before the movie I'd already fully comprehended MAD and his statement that surviving a nuke was probably the worst outcome and that is why it was good we lived in a good target - we'd get zapped quickly. I was actually fairly sanguine about it. The primary thing I remember as well gathered our small family unit was enormous laughter and jokes. My mom was a Mizzou graduate. Dad was a graduate of KU. Why they allow Tigers and Jayhawks to intermarry baffles me but I usually sided with mom. So lots of jokes from mom about how great it was that they were nuking Lawrence, KS. At the end of the movie I feigned emotional distress - full-on Emo - and told them I was too "emotionally distraught" by the movie and they hadn't provided "talking about the movie and nuclear war with sensitivity for your children like the news suggested" for me to even consider going to school the next day. To which they both laughed really hard and told me to get my ass to bed. It is actually a fun memory for me.

Now, there was a movie on TV earlier that year called "Special Bulletin" that creeped me out. Terrorists were going to explode a nuke in Charleston and it was shot like a live action Special Report they used to break into network coverage with. For some reason that felt scarier and more relevant than many felt. It was awesome though and better than The Day After just in terms of entertainment. I'd watch it today.
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There were a few back in the day. “By Dawns Early Light” with Powers Booth.

Nuke horror has been basically replaced by some kind of zombie horror or environmental horror. I remember “The Road” was pretty creepy, and you never saw Bruce blow up the asteroid.
 
Wardogg said:
Yeah, no. This is not the same. When I got braces I didn’t cap all of my friends and tell them I got braces and then also tell them I didn’t want anyone to see me yet.

This is way different than the old days.
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Yeah… but you weren’t a teenage girl. Just saying that’s how this chick most likely communicated with her friends since high school. And that’s my point, it’s way different than the old days, buts still a form of communicating.
 
HJB said:
This may seem abnormal and absurd, but this is how this new generation communicates. It’s no different than when we used to pick up the phone, and call our friends. This is the outcome of letting the tech nerds run rampant and unregulated, getting people to communicate with their social skills.
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Hard disagree on this one, because if you follow any of these people long enough (not necessarily pilots, but any influencer), pretty soon it all becomes an obvious "brand" and money grab. Probably an inevitable result of the world we're in where everything has become a commodity. If it was for her friends it would be a private page. This is blasted out to a mass audience that this person will probably never interact with. To each their own, but I don't really think it's the same as calling someone up to chat or even sending them a text directly.
 
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