Roger Roger
I am le tired
Welllll at least with the sled tipping on its tail you knew. The Cherokee you had to know the airplane because you could load it a mile past the aft edge and it still sat up.
Pilatus with 7 Aboard Down Off The Coast of NC
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ppragman
No pasa nada.
I love how in pretty much every one of these airplanes the limits for the nose baggage and the wing lockers were like the "pirates code" - just guidelines.
I watched a dude put like 8 marine batteries in the nose baggage of a sled once - it was amazing. It was probably the most stable 207 ever flown.
CK
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I think you guys are overthinking this. He was flying VFR into an airport reporting 900' overcast. The airplane starts maneuvering as it approaches a line of rain. The airplane starts a tight right turn, followed immediately by a tight left turn with a steep climb, in the final 20 seconds the airplane is in a 7,000fpm descent and its heading rotates 180*. Spatial disorientation happens, even in the best equipment.
Alex.
Roger Roger
I am le tired
Wellll you would have to be pretty lucky with the freight/baggage to find stuff that would be even close to maxing the wings in the Navajo and actually fit. But yeah if you knew you were going to be heavy the nose weight was more of a minimum than a limit.
ppragman
No pasa nada.
Did you have the Nyac tanks? In the one where we had the Nyac tank it was pretty easy to overload the nacelles, in the one where you could put 150 per side I could only get close to that weight with canned goods.
The Navajo nose baggage on the other hand
stroboli62
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in my little G1000 world.....PFD/MFD FAIL...A$$ over teakettle looking for my 3 standby instruments
ppragman
No pasa nada.
What’s truly amazing to me is caravan pod weights. I have personally seen a guy put well over two times the limited pod weight (limit is 1080), load the airplane full of villagers, top the mains, and blast off…
It is terrifying that this was basically industry standard for awhile up here.
It is terrifying that this was basically industry standard for awhile up here.
Roger Roger
I am le tired
This is normal during initial power on.
ppragman
No pasa nada.
This means absolutely nothing if the picture was taken when the airplane was powering up.
stroboli62
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Yeah my mistake...wasn';t sure inflight or not
zmiller4
Well-Known Member
Yeah, and from the metars it seems like it was pretty consistently less than 1000’ ceiling as well.
This sucks. My wife came home taking about it before I could tell her because she grew up with some members of some of the families involved and her “back home” network has been going nuts. The plane was flying into Beaufort (MHC) but a lot of the folks on board were from “down east”—the more sparsely populated area of eastern Carteret County to the east of Beaufort/Morehead City. Losing kids like this is hitting that community really hard.
Roger Roger
I am le tired
In that respect it sounds a lot like the PC-12 crash in SD a couple years back. Which was, no intended slander to the victims, a stupid • crash.
Murdoughnut
Well sized member
From the same post
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
The Bramlage family accident was sad as well. Not sure who the pilot was here. But in the Bramlage case, that was perhaps too much airplane for the pilot owner.
FlyingAccountant
Well-Known Member
That was because of iced up wings, right?
The NTSB report is suspiciously missing from the docket system.
Roger Roger
I am le tired
Iced up entire airplane loaded over gross and aft cg, plus premature rotation
Wardogg
Meat Popsicle
Man, synthetic vision to boot. If it was spatial disorientation he had every tool to help him out of it.