One crew member incapacitated...brace pax for landing?
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ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
I might have em brace if the reason that captain is dead is that we took a 40lb bird through the windshield and now the window is covered in blood and feathers and it's so windy I'm having a hard time seeing or thinking. Then, maybe, but they probably won't be able to hear my PA announcement over the shrieks of a dying falcon and the roar of the slipstream.
It's kind of irrellevant, I don't think about the potential liabilities when I excercise my responsibilities as a crew member outside the "realm of normal operations." Litteral CYA is more important than protecting yourself from litigation at this point. In the example given, you should be more concerned with getting the captain to help than with your career. In an emergency you should only be thinking about getting the airplane on the ground safely, if someone wants to monday morning quarterback the big gime when you get the ground later, I'll worry about it then. The rest of the time, I'm making sure I fly safelyand don't bend metal. Needlessly bracing your passengers under the false premise that its safer could produce more problems - like panic that could cause someone to get hurt while deplanning.
It's kind of irrellevant, I don't think about the potential liabilities when I excercise my responsibilities as a crew member outside the "realm of normal operations." Litteral CYA is more important than protecting yourself from litigation at this point. In the example given, you should be more concerned with getting the captain to help than with your career. In an emergency you should only be thinking about getting the airplane on the ground safely, if someone wants to monday morning quarterback the big gime when you get the ground later, I'll worry about it then. The rest of the time, I'm making sure I fly safelyand don't bend metal. Needlessly bracing your passengers under the false premise that its safer could produce more problems - like panic that could cause someone to get hurt while deplanning.
Springer
Well-Known Member
This actually happened to a buddy of mine at my airline flying a DC-10. Capt went to the restroom and died. Ops normal until clearing the runway where he shut down and had it towed to the gate. The interesting part was that my friend was flying on a medical wavier for sight in one eye.
CaptBill
Well-Known Member
Get someone to help the injured crew member while you focus on the airplane. Get medics in place and DONT create PA drama when none is needed. fly the plane and let the FA tell the folks we are landing for medical reasons in a nice sweet voice. Delegate distracting things to a FA or even a commuting pilot if needed.It should be a non event unless you make it one. Bracing the PAX would not be my choice.
Bumblebee
Commodore
you
you've obviously never seen me land.
CaptBill
Well-Known Member
You know things are bad when you unintentionally force the company to put "BRACE" on the normal landing checklist. I only screw up landings when I have someone I know onboard or have a plane full of commuting pilots, or jumpseaters, or ......well actually, almost always.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
All my landings would be greasers if the gear were just 3" longer. Flare, flare, oh this is gonna be nice...*thunk* daggum it, I swear I was 3" lower than that.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
"This is going to work out grea--" WHUMP
Bumblebee
Commodore
one particularly "smooth" landing, I opened the door a looked back into the cabin and, after noticing that none of the luggage bins had opened up (meaning that it wasn't too too hard), said, "Every one OK back there?" first quiet then we all had a good laugh! I swear I was just about to flare!
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Dexter23
"An Optimist is just a pessimist with experience"
There no reason to brace, unless you are having another issue that may effect the safety of the landing. I would declare an emergency, but with ATC only. Just let the pax know we need to return, without disclosing a crew member is down. No need to cause them to panic. Just have the medics standing by to board the plane when you clear the runway.
Well, you're an emergency waiting to happen anyway.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Meh, bring it to a stop, move over to the left and taxi the thing.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
From a liability standpoint, no thanks.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
You're right, sadly.
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