No more Brasilias at SkyWest...

[Seggy]

Still no substance.

 

[Lee D]

What kind of speeds do you get on the Brasilia?

It's been a few years, but as I recall they max out around 310 TAS. We were usually filed for airspeeds around 280 to 295.

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

Still no substance.

What "substance" are you looking for? I'm getting a "substance" from you, but it smells like BS.

 

[Seggy]

What "substance" are you looking for? I'm getting a "substance" from you, but it smells like BS.

He (like yourself) mentioned no tangible reason about changing a system that works pretty well overall.

Just a bunch of bitching.

 

[ASpilot2be]

It's been a few years, but as I recall they max out around 310 TAS. We were usually filed for airspeeds around 280 to 295.

Damn. That is pretty quick. Generally we are in the 260-290 TAS range. Still faster than Ravns Dash8s.

 

[scooter2525]

I liked the Brasilia. But the 1995 order of commuters from worst to first in passenger preference is clearly:

Metroliner, Beech1900C, Jetstream 31/32, Beech1900D, Jetstream 41, Shorts 330/360, Brasilia, Saab 340, Dash 8, Dornier 328, Jetstream 61 (ATP).

Disagree? That's ok, you can be wrong.

-*snorts* you left out the 99. Get a clue dude.

 

[Tommay85]

I liked the Brasilia. But the 1995 order of commuters from worst to first in passenger preference is clearly:

Metroliner, Beech1900C, Jetstream 31/32, Beech1900D, Jetstream 41, Shorts 330/360, Brasilia, Saab 340, Dash 8, Dornier 328, Jetstream 61 (ATP).

Disagree? That's ok, you can be wrong.

I have a really hard time picturing seats and passengers in the back of our Metros and 1900s.

What an awful, horrifying, back injury aggravating ride that must have been!

 

[KLB]

Damn. That is pretty quick. Generally we are in the 260-290 TAS range. Still faster than Ravns Dash8s.

While flying the bro at AMF, we'd give the competitors who flew Saabs on the same route we flew a 10 to minute head start (sometimes up to 30) and we'd past the by like they were sitting still. They could only get up into the high teens and we'd be chugging along in the mid twenties.

I'd rank the commuters I've flown that were fun to fly as:

1. Metro
2.Brasilia and Chieftan in a tie.
3. Beech 99

 

[ASpilot2be]

While flying the bro at AMF, we'd give the competitors who flew Saabs on the same route we flew a 10 to minute head start (sometimes up to 30) and we'd past the by like they were sitting still. They could only get up into the high teens and we'd be chugging along in the mid twenties.

I'd rank the commuters I've flown that were fun to fly as:

1. Metro
2.Brasilia and Chieftan in a tie.
3. Beech 99

I havent flown the SAAB during the Summer yet, but I have heard that teens are about right for summer. But Winter sure is nice. We can take it up to FL250 coming back from Dutch.

 

[Tommay85]

Damn. That is pretty quick. Generally we are in the 260-290 TAS range. Still faster than Ravns Dash8s.

IBC flies them REALLY slow. I'd catch them both out and back on our Miami - Grand Cayman run in a Metro, with a 10 minute head start.

 

[KLB]

I havent flown the SAAB during the Summer yet, but I have heard that teens are about right for summer. But Winter sure is nice. We can take it up to FL250 coming back from Dutch.

The bro in cold air has to be pulled back considerably to get off the barber poll at FL280. I've never done it but some of the guys told me that it can climb out so steep that it disappears for ATC's radar when its cold out and its nearly empty. "I know you want to run, but easy girl!"

 

[ASpilot2be]

IBC flies them REALLY slow. I'd catch them both out and back on our Miami - Grand Cayman run in a Metro, with a 10 minute head start.

Interesting. We run off the SAAB power charts and we do ok on speed. Down low you can get close to barber pole. How fast are they going?

The bro in cold air has to be pulled back considerably to get off the barber poll at FL280. I've never done it but some of the guys told me that it can climb out so steep that it disappears for ATC's radar when its cold out and its nearly empty. "I know you want to run, but easy girl!"

Thats impressive!

 

[KLB]

Interesting. We run off the SAAB power charts and we do ok on speed. Down low you can get close to barber pole. How fast are they going?

From what they told me...they true at 240 to 250. The brasilia trues at 290 to 210. Their planes aren't the best and the struggle up to FL180 while the brasilia can climb through can climb through FL180 at 1000fpm.

 

[Tommay85]

Interesting. We run off the SAAB power charts and we do ok on speed. Down low you can get close to barber pole. How fast are they going?

Thats impressive!

No idea, I estimate 30 knots slower. Our better Metros true out around 260 at 210

 

[ASpilot2be]

From what they told me...they true at 240 to 250. The brasilia trues at 290 to 210. Their planes aren't the best and the struggle up to FL180 while the brasilia can climb through can climb through FL180 at 1000fpm.

No idea, I estimate 30 knots slower. Our better Metros true out around 260 at 210

It looks like they are running A model freighters, which are really under powered. Our Bs and B+ true out around 260.

 

[Tommay85]

It looks like they are running A model freighters, which are really under powered. Our Bs and B+ true out around 260.

Never buy the A model/first year!!!! Haha

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

He (like yourself) mentioned no tangible reason about changing a system that works pretty well overall.

Just a bunch of bitching.

The system works "pretty well" for the top side and "pretty bad" for the bottom side.

 

[ASpilot2be]

Never buy the A model/first year!!!! Haha

Thats why they are the freighters!

 

[MikeD]

Hell, my senior year of college, I hopped on a commuter to PHX from PRC which was operated with a Chieftain..

Arizona Pacific Airlines!

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

He (like yourself) mentioned no tangible reason about changing a system that works pretty well overall.

Just a bunch of bitching.

I did, in fact, mention why it would work better, as have several people. You just keep ignoring the posts.