No more Brasilias at SkyWest...

ATN_Pilot said:
Translation: I get what I want or you all have to pay your dues all over again!
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I sat two years of reserve and have been a line holder the other 5 years at my airline. This isn't about me. If that's really what it was, you come in, eat your poop sandwich for a couple years, and move on to live happily ever after, I'd be totally on board with that system. The game has changed.

And you're hardly one that can talk about paying dues.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
:rolleyes:
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ATN_Pilot said:
Hey, that's a man's airplane! Unlike your sissy Brasilia with your APU and flight attendant. :D
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Right proper airliners have APUs and flight attendants, is the point.

The Brasilia is unique; it is fast enough and comfortable enough (by commuter aircraft standards...and actually I think I'd rather ride on the EM2 than a CRJ1/2, thanks). I'm not sure I would say that about the 1900.
 
I've actually never flown on one. I remember we used to drool over them when we sat parked on the ramp next to them out in Nassau. Same with the Piedmont Dash-8s. In those days, before every regional flew jets, flying something with a galley was a big deal. The Comair Brasilia crews were always nice enough to give us a drink from the galley, though. :)
 
I liked the Brasilia. But the 1995 order of commuters from worst to first in passenger preference is clearly:

Metroliner, Beech1900C, Jetstream 31/32, Beech1900D, Jetstream 41, Shorts 330/360, Brasilia, Saab 340, Dash 8, Dornier 328, Jetstream 61 (ATP).

Disagree? That's ok, you can be wrong.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
I liked the Brasilia. But the 1995 order of commuters from worst to first in passenger preference is clearly:

Metroliner, Beech1900C, Jetstream 31/32, Beech1900D, Jetstream 41, Shorts 330/360, Brasilia, Saab 340, Dash 8, Dornier 328, Jetstream 61 (ATP).

Disagree? That's ok, you can be wrong.
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We have at least one (fairly young, mind you) captain who has flown both the Brasilia and the Jetstream. And he has my mad respect for this distinction.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
I liked the Brasilia. But the 1995 order of commuters from worst to first in passenger preference is clearly:

Metroliner, Beech1900C, Jetstream 31/32, Beech1900D, Jetstream 41, Shorts 330/360, Brasilia, Saab 340, Dash 8, Dornier 328, Jetstream 61 (ATP).

Disagree? That's ok, you can be wrong.
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The Brasilia behind the Saab 340!! Pure heresy! Where's my pitchfork?!
 
The Saab is fine in the winter. But it was awful riding on that thing in the summer. It might finally get below 80 degrees in back at the end of a two hour flight.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
I liked the Brasilia. But the 1995 order of commuters from worst to first in passenger preference is clearly:

Metroliner, Beech1900C, Jetstream 31/32, Beech1900D, Jetstream 41, Shorts 330/360, Brasilia, Saab 340, Dash 8, Dornier 328, Jetstream 61 (ATP).

Disagree? That's ok, you can be wrong.
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We could probably take that list, go left to right, to say which plane was best in developing the most wicked, awesome, "you can be my wingman anytime," stick skills. I hear the Metro was trying to kill you at all times. :)
 
ATN_Pilot said:
The Saab is fine in the winter. But it was awful riding on that thing in the summer. It might finally get below 80 degrees in back at the end of a two hour flight.
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Luckily we run them in Alaska. Hopefuly we will be seeing how the 2000s are in the next year.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Forcing senior pilots to sit reserve again, years after they already suffered through it and paid their dues, just because the junior guys now don't want to shoulder the full burden of paying their dues like those who came before them, is completely unacceptable. That's just pulling down the ladder.

@Seggy is absolutely correct. You address reserve by improving the reserve work rules, not by forcing everyone to endure the misery off and on for the rest of their careers. I bid reserve because it's a good deal for me after we improved the reserve work rules. As a result, someone junior to me who doesn't want to fly reserve doesn't have to. Under this idiotic idea of rotating reserve, that guy would get stuck with reserve again, while right now he doesn't have to, even those he's junior to someone who is bidding reserve!

Absolutely frickin' ridiculous.
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Age 65 was seniors making their $200k another 5 years while the juniors were forced on reserve for another 5 years. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Enough of this "pay your dues" crap. That statement would hold water if EVERY pilot went through a similar career process and were exposed to the same time on reserve and as FO. People like Les Abend who get hired at AA in the mid 80s at age 26, spend 12 months as a flight engineer, 5 years as a FO, and then upgrade at age 32 and have been a Captain for the past 25+ years is NOT the same as a guy who was hired at AA in 1999 and then furloughed after 9/11 and remained on furlough for 10 years. And the seniors are so disconnected from reality, it's not even funny. I was jumpseating on a NWA A330 from HNL to MSP and the CA had no clue who Pinnacle was. That senior, he didn't care to know who was flying the outsourced work at his own airline. You can bet that every NWA DC9 pilot I came across knew EXACTLY who Pinnacle was.

Rotating reserve is just fine, and the fact the only ones against it here are the ones who won in the seniority game and are in excellent positions today.
 
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